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non-notable NFL player. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, England, and Massachusetts. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep no policy-based rationale was provided for deletion. No evidence that WP:BEFORE was conducted. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • What evidence do you have that he's notable? It's not on me to prove notability, it's on you. Therapyisgood (talk) 06:08, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    You seem awfully eager to get articles deleted and awfully unwilling to put an actual ounce of effort into demonstrating that the articles warrant deletion. Are you quite certain that you are actually here to build an encyclopedia? I have my doubts. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 06:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Procedural keep, reason for deletion does not mention a specific policy. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:19, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Failed (and currently fails) WP:GNG. Therapyisgood (talk) 06:08, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or redirect Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. There is no SIGCOV in the article and none has been presented here. I searched, including in the archives at Newspapers.com, with various versions of his name but found nothing of significance. A redirect to List of Canton Bulldogs players is also acceptable in my opinion. Alvaldi (talk) 09:25, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• keep having played in 4 games of the NFL, he meets the standards that we typically show as a keep result. If nothing else, I lean on the policy WP:IAR and do what we always do.--Paul McDonald (talk) 23:10, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a pioneering player in the NFL. Four games with the Canton Bulldogs certainly is notable. And per above discussion. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: 4 games in the NFL makes a person notable. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, per IAR (although a bit more weak than some of the other noms), as an original NFL member with four games. I see the potential for something at least somewhat decent to be developed out of this (at least something like this in length), and if kept I will. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The notability requirement for sports subjects is the GNG. If significant coverage of the subject as a person are not available, then they aren't notable, period. We already determined this via community consensus regarding NSPORTS months ago. Unless someone can present the required significant coverage, this article should be deleted. I would suggest that the closer actively ignore any Keep arguments made above that are based on claims of "number of games played", which is not a notability requirement. If such an action is not heeded by the closer, then I expect I will have to take this to DRV afterwards. Silverseren^C 01:35, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would suggest that the closer actively ignore any Keep arguments made above that are based on claims of "number of games played", which is not a notability requirement. – No, they should not be discounted, as IAR is a policy. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unless an editor can provide references to reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this person. I cannot support keeping an article referenced only to a database containing no prose actually describing the person. No objection to a redirect. Cullen328 (talk) 03:11, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to List of Canton Bulldogs players, a complete list where this individual is mentioned. The article subject fails WP:NSPORT and fails WP:GNG, and could reasonably be deleted in light of WP:DEL-REASON#8 (i.e. Articles whose subjects fail to meet the relevant notability guideline). I will remind people present in this discussion of WP:CONLEVEL, namely that Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. For instance, unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope (internal links omitted, emphasis mine). The WP:NSPORTS2022 was long, contentious, and closed with a consensus that sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject. What we're dealing with here is currently a situation where everyone agrees that zero sources are present that provide significant coverage, but some people are saying that we should decide in this limited time and place that the community consensus about sportspeople needing significant coverage does not apply here—that plainly isn't how consensus works on Wikipedia, and this article subject does not warrant an article in light of the community consensus.That all being said, I do think the list that mentions that this individual played for the Canton Bulldogs is a reasonable use of WP:ATD-R, and I believe that a redirect to that list would be useful (though the list itself could be improved). — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:25, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per IAR, as an original NFL member with four games, and nothing else at all, I just don't see why anyone should take note. I don't see the potential for something at least somewhat decent to be developed out of this. I thinks it will always be a microstub if kept Randy Peck (talk) 08:34, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]