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{{ec}} Hi there Stephfo and Hrafn. Thanks for posting to the dispute resolution noticeboard. Now, if I am reading this situation correctly, this looks like a dispute about an edit that Stephfo made back on the 3rd of September, and is only just able to respond to now after they have been released from their block. I think that the fact that they have been unblocked, and that they have been assigned a trusyworthy mentor, means that we should not just dismiss Stephfo's edits as disruptive - I think there is another factor involved here. Also, I think Stephfo was absolutely right about filing a post at this noticeboard. Given their recent unblocking I think it definitely pays to err on the side of caution, even though there hasn't been much in the way of recent discussion on the talk page. <p>In many ways, I think this dispute is on a technicality. Stephfo added a "citation needed" template to a sentence which had a citation. On the face of it, this may look suspicious, but actually I do agree with Stephfo that the citation is not backing up the claim made in the article. The claim is about what creationists claim, but the citation is about the level of logic needed to back up claims made by mainstream scientists. The citation doesn't seem to mention creationists at all, and thus doesn't pass satisfy [[WP:V|Wikipedia's policy of verifiability]]. It looks like this whole debate could have been avoided if Stephfo had used the {{tl|not in citation given}} template instead of "citation needed", but I don't think it is reasonable for every editor to know their way around all these templates. Is there an aspect of this dispute that I'm missing? Because at the moment my recommendation is for someone to find a better citation for the claim contested with Stephfo's "citation needed" template. All the best — <b style="text-shadow:0.15em 0.15em 0.1em #555; color: #194D00; font-style: oblique; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♫]]</sup></b> 13:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)</p>

:"Is there an aspect of this dispute that I'm missing?" The fact that the passage in question has been long-since removed from the article -- rendering your "recommendation" (and in fact this entire thread) entirely irrelevant. Stephfo had been making a complete nuisance of himself at the time (hence all the blocks), and my response to this particular issue at the time was coloured by that fact. <font face="Antiqua, serif">''[[User:Hrafn|Hrafn]]<sup>[[User talk:Hrafn|Talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Hrafn|Stalk]]</sub><sup>''('''[[M:Precisionism|P]]''')</sup></font> 14:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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