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RD: Norm Macdonald

Nominator's comments: Comedian and ‘Saturday Night Live’ star, among other TV appearances. CoatCheck (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Patchy referencing, as is common of entertainment bios. Hrodvarsson (talk) 20:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Longer articles will always have worse referencing, which is why RD is usually filled with crappy stub-adjacent articles about people no one has ever heard of because those articles are incredibly easy to source. Mlb96 (talk) 04:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Honestly, article is more than adequate. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Many citations needed, including that filmography section, and the tone tag needs to be addressed. There seems to be too much in the section about his leaving SNL. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Nearly all of Works is unreferenced, and deserves the {{unreferenced section}} orange tag. I disagree that the SNL details are UNDUE; That was a significant event in his popular career, which was otherwise a pretty standard one for a stand-up comic.130.233.213.141 (talk) 07:07, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: George Wein

Nominator's comments: Founder of the Newport Folk Festival and Newport Jazz Festival, some reliable sources (including NPR above) credit him as influential on the development of the modern contemporary music festival. Article almost certainly needs updating and sourcing.  Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 04:13, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support – article is well-referenced; now meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 23:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Fred Stanfield

 Bloom6132 (talk) 23:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Good depth of coverage of subject, referenced. Marking ready. Spencer^T•C 03:40, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Update) US Open: Medvedev wins men's singles

 2600:1702:38D0:E70:684E:EFB0:82F9:CCFF (talk) 00:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Still no meaningful prose update at 2021 US Open (tennis) for either the women's or men's singles.—Bagumba (talk) 01:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Bagumba. Raducanu was posted on the basis of the unique circumstances of her victory. Medvedev has no such claim as he's been a top player for some time. If and when the 3021 US Open tennis article is updated satisfactorily, we can add it to the blurb then.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• (looks like quite a long wait then). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• By that time I believe tennis would've been gone and replaced by something else... --180.244.168.241 (talk) 16:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Judging from the archives, it looks like the US Open hadn't been posted for years until 2020.—Bagumba (talk) 06:11, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the US Open is listed on WP:ITNR (and traditionally, we wait until the conclusion of the men’s final on the Sunday, but there’s an understandable reason to break from tradition for once) so the only consideration should be article quality. Sceptre (talk) 20:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per Amakuru. The event article is not good enough right now to be on the front page. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• This is why it was foolish to post Raducanu before seeing whether the men's tournament would be in a fit state to post. We shouldn't put either on them on the MP unless/until 2021 US Open (tennis) has fully referenced paragraphs on the men's and women's events. Now it looks stupid to post one but not the other. We should not be bolding either individual's articles, but it makes no sense to make an exception for Raducanu but not Medvedev. This is a complete mess that can only be sorted out by someone updating the tournament article. It shouldn't be difficult, maybe an hour's work - I just don't personally have time to do it. Modest Genius ^talk 13:37, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Raducanu achieved something that had never been done before (in the Open Era of tennis, which began in 1968)- that was worth posting, and her article was good enough. The thing that's ridiculous is that sports events like this get ITN nominated immediately after the result, and nobody ever bothers to do anything to improve them, like write any prose. Regardless of whether the tournament was ITNR or not, Raducanu was ITN-worthy. Certainly the most widely covered aspect of this tournament... Joseph2302 (talk) 13:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I disagree. What was interesting about Raducanu was that she won the US Open, not how she qualified for that event. The outcome of the tournament is the story here. Modest Genius ^talk 14:09, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• And it also makes us look baised to not have the mens' result there given it was the same effect event (one day later). That Raducanu happened to be the first qualifier to win a Grand Slam is an interesting bit of news, but its also still acknowledging the winner of the womens' US Open, and that leaves us hanging on who the mens' winner is since most know that happens at the same time. --Masem (t) 14:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• If it happened 'at the same time', that might be better. But it doesn't, it happens the next day. (ah yes, a whole day to improve 2021 US Open (tennis)!) Martinevans123 (talk) 14:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• All that is really needed on the Open article are recaps of each major tier (in comparison to the 2020 article). That's a few hours of work at most, and most of it save for the mens' bracket could have been done following Raducanu's win. --Masem (t) 14:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't see what was "stupid" about it. Raducanu was the bigger story and deserved to be posted in a timely fashion - consensus was to bold the non-ITN/R player article. That no-one is apparently interested in improving the ITN/R US Open article is a shame but has no bearing on the first posting. I'm pleased that this time we avoided the dull "X wins the women's while Y wins the men's" formula and actually highlighted what was notable about her achievement. Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:23, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Exactly this. We voted on the Raducanu story as a newsworthy ITN blurb in its own right, and it was posted. That has nothing to do with the separate fact that the US Open itself is ITN/R, and it is not a "complete mess". It is simply Wikipedia highlighting a story that has been much talked about. It's a shame that nobody has bothered to add prose to the US Open tennis article, and the men's result is therefore lacking, but that doesn't take away from Emma Raducanu's highly unusual feat.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Marianne Battani

Nominator's comments: American federal judge appointed by President Bill Clinton. She was notable for giving a light sentence to the neighbor of Rand Paul after he beat the crap out of him. Article looks good and I went in and took care of the citation needed tag for her sentencing of a scammer so it should be good to go! --Newsjunky12 (talk) 14:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Support Article looks ok for now. Pyramids09 (talk) 17:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted A little short, but still okay for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 08:41, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose I know it's too late to oppose but just wanted to point out that, yet again, the issue of notability is thrown out of the window whenever some obscure american personality is concerned 86.238.248.20 (talk) 17:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The RD template itself states "Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post" – concerns about notability should be brought to AFD. –FlyingAce^✈hello 23:12, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charlotte Johnson Wahl

Nominator's comments: Mother of Boris Johnson. Article seems in good shape. Blythwood (talk) 23:28, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: I very highly doubt she'd even have an article if she wasn't the mother of Boris. The article isn't well-written too and is too small. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 23:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment WP:N concerns should go to AFD. A mother three WP:N subjects with independent RS coverage since at least 2008 doesn't seem like a successful case. At 3,8 kb prose, it's more than a stub, and only a bit shorter than the shortest BLP on RD right now (4,2 kb). What's in the article is fine and spot checking references looks good, but some additions may be helpful.130.233.213.141 (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Norwegian election

Nominator's comments: Plurality for the Labour Party who are expected to lead the next government - coalition talks are ongoing. LukeSurl ^t c 10:33, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, heard this on the radio this morning. Article is a bit short but okay. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 11:07, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose more sourcing needed, particularly on the "Electoral system" section. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:14, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Wait – Labor in talks with two left-center parties to form coalition govt. [1] – Sca (talk) 12:36, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong support Important story This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Fine, but we should wait until a coalition govt. is announced. – Sca (talk) 00:31, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Emma Raducanu wins US Open

 2600:1702:38D0:E70:E921:3B98:522B:E780 (talk) 00:26, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Noting that this is ITNR, and usually we post both the women's and men's winner together (the latter that happens tomorrow). And as a comment as has been a problem for the US Open in the past several years, the target article (the overall US Open) is nearly all just tables and not sufficient for the main page. --Masem (t) 00:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: 2020 US Open (tennis) is a GA, and while this year's article doesn't need to be a GA level, that article can give editors a general idea of how this one can be improved accordingly. Spencer^T•C 01:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment As the ITNR is for men’s and women’s, and will be a bland X and Y win line, I suggest this be nommed as a regular ITNC for the remarkable nature of the win on its own to get a blurb. Kingsif (talk) 01:38, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • We'd not make a separate blurb for noting the Grand Slam part - it would be incorporated into the ITNR blurb. We'd also have to see if being the first qualifier to reach the Grand Slam is treated as a significant record (I think this was a point related to the first woman jockey to win the Kentucky Derby last year). --Masem (t) 03:47, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Emma Raducanu should be bolded in the blurb. First ever qualifier to win a Grand Slam in tennis justifies making an exception here. Mjroots (talk) 06:13, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - I'm not aware whether we usually mention the wheelchair events, but if Dylan Alcott wins the quad singles, he will have won a 'golden slam' of five singles titles in one year, having previously won the Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon and the Olympic Gold Medal. No man has ever done this in any form of tennis. Worth considering for a mention? HiLo48 (talk) 06:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  @HiLo48: - if it happens it might be worth a separte nom. Mjroots (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - This is more notable than usual, due to ER not being seeded or in the top 100. No need to wait for the men's event to be completed before posting. Jim Michael (talk) 08:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Holding back the woman to wait for the man is outrageous bias. Raducanu is making big headlines right now – much bigger than the election in Morocco. Yesterday, the election had just 11K readers while Raducadu was the top read article with 1.4 million. You cannot be serious! Andrew🐉(talk) 09:14, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support bolding of Emma Raducanu. The US Open (tennis) article is nowhere near ready right now, it has no prose on the event at all. But, as noted above, the newsworthy event here is not just the ITN/R tournament, but the fact that she was the first-ever qualifier to win any grand slam. Given that we posted "world records" in several athletic events during the Olympics, I'd say this would qualify under a similar banner. And the BLP in this case is adequate and sourced.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:26, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support with bolding of Emma Raducanu article. First qualifier ever to win a Slam, this should be posted regardless of what Djokovic does or doesn't do later today. Pawnkingthree (talk) 10:57, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Not ITNR without the year's tournament article bolded, so I'm going to preemptively oppose the men's final merging with this later today unless and until its article gets into much better shape. —Cryptic 11:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support the inclusion of Emma Raducanu's achievement independent of whether the main tournament article is in good enough shape (as noted above, this has become a perennial problem with the tennis Grand Slam articles). It is clear that Raducanu's acheivement is receiving enough news coverage worldwide to justify it on its own terms. Similarly for the coverage of Djokovic if he wins later. I also support treating these items separately (they are distinct and separate achivements) and not merging them as we normally would for the winners (the inclusion is because of the record(s) they set/may set, not that they won/may win). In terms of blurb (and shortening it), the name of the opponent in the final would not normally be included, I don't think, though US Open and tennis need to be explicitly mentioned. Have added alt blurb. Carcharoth (talk) 11:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ALT blurb as a first, this is unrepeatable. Mjroots (talk) 11:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per Pawnkingthree. Regards SoWhy 11:49, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support ALT blurb as per Mj. Won the match with an ace. Did not lose a set. Injured in the final. Got an A* in Maths and an A in Economics in her A-levels. Passed her driving test two days before lockdown! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:54, 12 September 2021 (UTC) p.s.Djoko = "Yawn City Noo Joizee" by comparison.[reply]
• Oppose quality Not major enough to bypass a sourced prose summary in the main article at 2021 US Open (tennis)#Women's singles.—Bagumba (talk) 12:12, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: Die 18-jährige britische Tennisspielerin Emma Raducanu (Bild) hat das Dameneinzel der US Open gewonnen, als erste Qualifikantin, die je das Finale eines Grand-Slam-Turniers erreicht hat. [4] – Sca (talk) 13:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait until we know the men's champion, then post both together - as is instructed on ITNR and usual for tennis tournaments. Furthermore the 2021 US Open (tennis) article is not ready, having no prose update whatsoever. It needs at least one paragraph each of referenced prose describing the outcome of the women's and men's tournaments. Dodging the issue by bolding Raducanu's article is inappropriate IMO. Her method of qualification seems like sports trivia to me, so unnecessary to mention in the blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 16:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  All those world records we posted during the Olympics were trivia too, and also relatively predictable. This, on the other hand, was entirely out of left field and a more major story than an incremental beating of a record. This is not "dodging" at all, but going with the ITN story. Djokovic or Medvedev will not get the same treatment.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:52, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Raducanu's the story here, not the Open. No "issue dodging". ITNR's just getting in the way. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  If we post Raducanu's win and not the winner of the men's, that's a problem, and while an updated blurb can do that, the US Open article would still be a necessary target in that blurb overall. --Masem (t) 16:58, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Also looks like the Men's result is holding back the Women's here. Oh well, perhaps it's less important. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC) (p.s. even though there's been equal prize money at the Open since 2015. lol.)[reply]

  Or we can invoke IAR and not bold the US Open article. Mjroots (talk) 17:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where there's a will.... – Sca (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Or the US Open can be expanded like the 2020 to include short recaps for each of the major finale events (the mens' event pending), with sections like viewership to be omitted for the time being. This is easily done now. --Masem (t) 17:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait until the conclusion of the men's final and post a combined blurb with simple wording. Raducanu's achievement shouldn't sponge on the ITNR status of the story, which clearly indicates that the conclusion of the tournament is what should be highlighted (let alone that it's more suitable for DYK). I'll also oppose including Djokovic's completion of a Calendar-year Grand Slam in the blurb if he wins even though that feat will be surely top news.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:20, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Her achievement wouldn't be "sponging" off anything if posted now? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't like how people put the tournament, whose inportance bears the ITNR status, on the back burner and focus on her achievement, which goes even further by bolding another article and, as Modest Genius correctly notes, dodging the quality issue of the tournament's article to speed up posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I see. Perhaps all Open wins are equally notable. So they'll fit in neatly with Wikipedia's tried and tested ITNR routine and with the practicalities of article improvement. I must admit I've improved none of the articles, so my !vote ought to count for less. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:58, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted with alt. If there's a separate issue after the men's final, that shouldn't stop this being posted now. No image available, so I've sent File:Raducanu WMQ18 (16) (42834286534).jpg to WP:CMP as well. Black Kite (talk) 18:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I wonder what the blurb will look like if Djokovic completes a Calendar-year Grand Slam.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Fingers crossed. Or else maybe the Fickle Finger of Fate... Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EDS: Make that a Flying Fickle Finger of Fate. – Sca (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tyrone win fourth Sam Maguire Cup

 Gaois (talk) 18:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Quality looks fine, it's of sufficient length and there's a prose summary of the match. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Could use some copyediting. Sentences like Pat Spillane quoted Samuel Beckett on television afterwards with limited context don't add much to the article IMO. Spencer^T•C 01:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support the one sentence above is a minor issue, article looks in pretty decent shape. And event is ITNR. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:05, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the last paragraph the lead is unsourced. Other than that, seems good to go per Joseph2302.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:03, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed that cn tag 89.19.79.17 (talk) 11:21, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the intent of the tag was that the whole paragraph was unsourced. The source you added only supported the last sentence.—Bagumba (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Still unsourced broadcast details in lead (aside: detail probably doesn't belong in the lead, but should at least be sourced).—Bagumba (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That paragraph appears to have been sourced about one hour and thirty minutes after the request. --Gaois (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Abimael Guzmán

Nominator's comments: Needs a fair amount of work before it will be ready for the main page. I may have some time later to work on it. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 18:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support on notability, once maintenance tags have been resolved. --NoonIcarus (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Oppose primarily due to gaps in referencing. Once resolved I would support this as a blurb. Guzmán was among the most significant of Latin America's long list of Communist revolutionaries and one of the great mass murderers of the late 20th century. His influence on the political development and history of the region cannot be overstated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:59, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, potential blurb As one of the most notorious rebel leaders of recent years, he seems like a candidate for deathblurb if anyone is This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 01:30, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose There are several tags in the article. Hanamanteo (talk) 10:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it". Guzmán was responsible for the death of more than 30 thousand people during the time of terrorism in Peru. Wikiperuvian (talk) 00:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Article still tagged. Also, it's not sufficiently notable for a blurb.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Concepción Ramírez

Nominator's comments: She was the model for the Guatemalan Q0.25 coin. Article seems to be well referenced, though I haven't checked in detail. –FlyingAce^✈hello 03:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - she's described in the lead as a "peace activist", and we're also told she was awarded a pension for her "life's achievements", but apart from one incident of speaking out in 2007 there's no detail at all of what she did during her life outside of being chosen as the face on the coin.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:20, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jorge Sampaio

Nominator's comments: Former president of Portugal. I'm improving his bio (although I'm taking a break now), so I'm already nominating him to encourage other users to improve it. He's a referent politician of the European socialism, who has led the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations, so I leave in the air the possibility that he has a blurb. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose blurb No offence to a country that I know very well, but I wouldn't call every president of Portugal an a priori blurb as would be the case with USA, China and Russia. Transformative figures like the architects of the 1974 revolution and the new democracy yes, but I see nothing transformative about Sampaio. The UNAOC, I will admit I know little about, the message seems noble but the true impact of it and Sampaio's position in it, I will leave the more informed to decide. And oppose in current state due to mass problems with citations. Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change to support. Good work. Sorry I didn't get back sooner Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose blurb not an autoblurb situation like POTUSs/UKPMs/Chinese presidents. Led a minor UN initiative that I didn't know of beforehand, certainly no UNICEF. Also terribly uncited in its current state, so oppose RD on quality.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:03, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the President of Portugal "holds no direct executive power". If we're going to get triggered on heads of state vs govt, keep that in mind. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Nom. comment Finally I've finished fixing his article, expanding its content and adding new sources. Sure it will be necessary to fix small details, but I think it now meets the requirements to be published to RD. Take a look at it @John M Wolfson:@Unknown Temptation:@LaserLegs:. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Support - the article is orange tagged with "lead needs expanding", which seems somewhat legitimate at present. It doesn't need to be huge, but including some more details from the body would definitely be beneficial before posting.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Amakuru: Fixed. Although I don't think that is the most important determinant of whether it's published or not. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:11, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Well if it's orange tagged it's not eligible, regardless. The lead still looks short compared to his overall career, but it's just about OK I guess. Support for RD.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:47, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 22:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Uno Loop

Nominator's comments: Famous Estonian musician. Article seems good and well-sourced. Sources are all in Estonian so you will need a translator to review them. Think it's a good candidate for RD. --Newsjunky12 (talk) 00:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 11:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted All non-English sources AGF'd. --PFHLai (talk) 11:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment without any disrespect at all, Uno Loop is the best name of anyone anywhere I've seen for a decade, so I would have supported on that basis alone. Thank goodness we have decent contributors who make it all work the way it should. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Ah yeah, cheers, Rambling Toad. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC) enjoy![reply]

• I'm struggling as to why Martin hasn't been here with all the wit. It's nice, like summoning a demon, he's finally arrived, but the input is lacking. Perhaps it's having a bad day. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:17, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Call me a relic of a bygone age, but I'm too busy laughing at the idea of a "hockey player" named Jahangir Butt to go that loopy for Loop. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:35, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess the last name probably is pronounced like English lope. As to Uno, FWIW, Udo is a not uncommon name in German. – Sca (talk) 12:12, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You mean like a jackalope? Inedible you are a relic of a bygone age. Norman Buttkiss 123 (talk) 13:15, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was thinking of Lope de Aguirre, designer of the iconic "Eldo" made famous by Hardly Real. – Sca (talk) 13:54, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All is clear now, thank you. Presumably no relation to Liza? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid I'm out of the loop on that one. – Sca (talk) 16:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rahimullah Yusufzai

 Ainty Painty (talk) 02:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Early life section needs a ref or two; external links need cleanup; career section could use 3-4 more sentences about his work to have more sufficient depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 02:38, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Najib Mikati becomes Prime Minister of Lebanon

Nominator's comments: Change of head of government. Premiership has been vacant ever since the port explosion. Article for the new Prime Minister looks good. --Newsjunky12 (talk) 13:53, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The wikibio is well sourced, but with little coverage of his prior two terms. In general the "Political career" section should be cleaned up and improved. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added more details about political career translated from his page on French Wikipedia. This should be now ready to go. Tradedia^talk 18:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment not ITN/R. Fixed. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How's that? 331dot (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not an election, not the "office which administer the executive of their respective state/government". A totally powerless figurehead, appointed by the president. We finally fixed this head of state/government silliness and he doesn't qualify. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So List of current heads of state and government is incorrect, because it currently shows the PM with the power. 331dot (talk) 22:28, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh FFS the position is "President of the Council of Ministers" in that table and "Prime Minister" here. Ok whatever reverted then. My bad. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Their system is some kind of bizarre power sharing agreement, damn. Still, I won't argue with the green box. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:38, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I want to confirm that this is indeed green box. The president has to be Christian and the PM has to be a Sunni Muslim So he is seen as the representative of Sunni Muslims. He shares power with the President. I think this should be a blurb even if it was not green box. The country has been without a government for a year because the president and the would be PM could not agree on the division of power. Now they finally agree and the new PM is in charge of reform and negotiating (with foreign institutions/countries) to save the country from “one of the deepest depressions of modern history” (World Bank words). If he succeeds, the country can be saved. If he fails, the country could descend into a new civil war that would further destabilize the Middle East. Tradedia^talk 18:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support See my 2 comments above. Tradedia^talk 18:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Richard McGeagh

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted Stephen 04:40, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Amanda Holden (writer)

Nominator's comments: Prolific writer of translations of operas into English (Don Giovanni in slang) for the ENO, and librettos for new operas including Bliss (opera) for an Australian. Strictly, we are not sure about the 9th as DOD, - just the day the news came around. - In the article, there were many detailed sources for individual works and reviews, but surprisingly little overall. Help wanted, - difficult to find, as the actress of the same name is better known. She's not a composer ... or we would have a decent obit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC) Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Referenced, coverage of life meets minimum standards. Spencer^T•C 01:12, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Article is in good condition. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Leif Frode Onarheim

Nominator's comments: Norwegian businessperson and politician. Oceanh (talk) 10:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose While referenced, essentially a resume in prose format with limited depth of coverage; needs additional details about what subject accomplished in their various roles. Spencer^T•C 02:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2021 Moroccan general election

Nominator's comments: The increasingly official results already show that the moderate islamists went from leading the government and the parliament for 10 years, to coming last in an election won by the minister of agriculture. I'm (we are) working on updating and shaping the article and it will be ready soon. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong support big result, for sure a change in head of gov and thus ITN/R by proxy This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 13:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Article quality is sufficient. Offering an altblurb, as the original blurb used vague terms like "won"; which in a parliamentary election such as this, is not how it works. They secured the highest number of seats (and not even an absolute majority of 50+%, just more than any other single party) which should be reflected in the blurb. --Jayron32 15:48, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - quality looks good to me. Levivich 17:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Nicely done. – Sca (talk) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Nom. comment Updating "Results" sections as we have the definitive ones. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:07, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support As above. --Newsjunky12 (talk) 00:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 06:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• PP comment – Aziz Akhannouch appointed PM. – Sca (talk) 12:21, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Art Metrano

 Bloom6132 (talk) 04:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comments: Long enough and has enough footnotes scattered around and at the expected spots. This nom is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted Stephen 03:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Big Daddy Graham

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:47, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Posted Stephen 03:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ruth Bradley Holmes

Nominator's comments: Linguist, educator, and polyglot. She died Sept 2, but her obituary was published Sept 8. TJMSmith (talk) 00:28, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 10:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted A bit short, but still okay. --PFHLai (talk) 12:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD.Blurb: Yevgeny Zinichev

Nominator's comments: It's not often that a minister of a major power (Russia) not only dies in service, but dies in the line of duty. I believe his heroism is worthy of a blurb. My blurb may not be up to standards though, as English is not my first language, so feel free to fix it (or propose another). --Daikido (talk) 10:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose blurb. It seems like a sad story, and Mr Zinichev appears to have died heroically, but that's not in itself sufficient reason to blurb it as a main news item, particularly as there doesn't seem to be any more "intrigue" to the story than what meets the eye.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Also oppose RD at this time. Needs quite a bit of tidy up, as the article prose reads more like WP:PROSELINE right now. And quite a few citations missing.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose blurb as above. Also oppose RD currently, as article needs a lot more sources- and the circumstances surrounding his death need to be added. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose blurb per above. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose blurb – Lacks general significance. Suggest snow. – Sca (talk) 12:23, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is proposed as blurb/RD, so it can remain open to judge when ready for posting as RD. 331dot (talk) 15:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC

• Oppose blurb at this time/support RD - there isn't enough information about his death (yet) to justify a blurb. If more news sources come out and the biography is expanded (or if the death becomes notable/significant enough for a standalone page), I might change my mind. Support RD but not blurb at this time. Levivich 15:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Article is about 1/3 unreferenced. Not good enough for main page. Agnostic on RD/Blurb at this time. --Jayron32 16:06, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb once article fixed. Certainly an unusual situation. Merits inclusion in my view. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support blurb The story is very unusual and this is clearly in the news. I think the accident is what matters here and not whether the person is notable enough to merit a blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose blurb, but support RD for the reasons above. Quite aside from the basic notability issue, the BBC is reporting that the circumstances of his death are uncorroborated. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Sourcing tags.—Bagumba (talk) 08:59, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose blurb, support RD While my condolences go out to Mr. Zinichev's family, he isn't that well known, and doesn't really merit a blurb. An addition to RD would suffice, however. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose the article is still not ready and days later there doesn't seem to be much activity. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Adlai Stevenson III

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Article looks good. Davey2116 (talk) 08:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 12:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Tangerang prison fire

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 03:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose If it develops past the disaster stub phase, it might be suitable. But given the history of articles like these, I'm willing to just oppose it at the beginning.130.233.213.141 (talk) 05:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An IP has updated the article. The article now has passed the stub threshold by 400 characters. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 06:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – Mortality and circumstances seem notable, but the article would need much further work. Quite widely covered. – Sca (talk) 12:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Sca: Any specific comment on what the "further work" should be? Probably point out a section? Thank you. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any word on the probable cause of the fire? – Sca (talk) 13:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sca: Initial investigations by the police indicated that the fire occured due to short circuit. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - I cleared the orphan tag; article quality looks good to me. Not a stub anymore; no tags; no problems with prose that I can see; good referencing; reasonably complete for a new breaking news article. Levivich 15:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Meets minimum standards for depth of coverage; referenced. Spencer^T•C 17:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Notable enough and article is good. Pyramids09 (talk) 17:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 19:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
•   Posted  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Finally....one of my articles appeared as a blurb at In the News...😭😭😭...thanks for those who help to develop the article as well as those who support this...now I could die in peace... --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:01, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Moist Esports signs Moky and Hotashi

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