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==== [[Template:Escape page link from within]] ====

:''The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. '''Please do not modify it.''' Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).''

The result of the discussion was '''delete'''. [[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]] [[User talk:Plastikspork|―Œ(talk)]] 23:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

* {{Tfd links|Escape page link from within}}

Unused template that does what [[Template:Delink]] does. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 06:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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*:::I removed the "documentation" as it isn't documentation, but you telling a irrelevant story. Documentation should be short and to the point. So far you aren't adding any usages other than the one at the header template which isn't really needed. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 07:48, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

:'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}''' Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 23:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' I don't think that something like this can have any legitimate uses, and it's something of an extreme hack – notably, it adds a couple of invisible links pointing to the Main Page, which would be visible to users browsing in certain unusual ways (e.g. when using the keyboard to cycle through links, rather than finding them visually – this is something a blind person might plausibly do when trying to navigate a page). In general, if a template is asking for a page name (and thus creating a link to the page), the template is designed to have a page name entered there, and if you're trying to enter something else you are using the wrong template. As such, deleting this is probably for the best because a) it doesn't quite work properly and b) its existence implicitly encourages people to use it, which in the case of this template is probably a bad idea. (This is, however, entirely different from {{tl|delink}} and thus the nomination statement is incorrect.) --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 05:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

*: {{re|Ais523}} You're correct that the template is an extreme hack. When the template was created, the documentation included a prominent warning to try to dissuade inappropriate usage. I'd say that that warning has worked. I don't think the number of legitimate uses is completely zero, though — for situations like the above, you don't want to modify the underlying template, so there is no other solution to achieve the same functionality. With this as a template, it's at least possible to track usage (and curtail inappropriate usage), which seems better than having users stumble on the code independently without any guidance. There are plenty of templates with abuse potential; documenting them works better than trying to hide away the knowledge the code exists. (And yes, thank you for affirming that the nomination is based on an erroneous understanding; it should not be given weight.) [[User:Sdkb|Sdkb]] [[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']] 11:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. I understand the intention of this template, but it is not done in a "good" way; we should not be encouraging templates that throw in invisible links to the [[Main Page]] just to make something happen. I will also note the /doc example is a somewhat over-trivialised hypothetical that (as near as I can tell) will never actually be used. If there are strong enough warnings on the template to discourage people from using it, and people ''haven't'' used the template because of it (and/or because it's not necessarily a useful template) then it should be deleted. If a specific template should allow for non-wikilinking in a parameter but doesn't, the template itself should probably be changed. {{ppor}} [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 13:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per above. I'm not a fan of hacky solutions like this which are hard to understand and liable to cause nasty surprises for casual template authors. I've reviewed the arguments above and am unconvinced that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks -[[User talk:Fastily|Fastily]] 22:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

:''The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. '''Please do not modify it.''' Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this section.''</div>

==== [[Template:Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad]] ====

* {{Tfd links|Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad}}

Navbox with two blue links. [[User:DB1729|'''''DB''''''''''1729''''']][[User talk:DB1729|'''''talk''''']] 23:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

* '''Keep''', it has three (including the parent), and the other redlinks are valid future articles. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 01:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

*The result of the discussion was '''~~Keep~~relisted''' on [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 24#Template:Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad|~~Mackensen}}~~2024 June 24]]. [[User:~~Useddenim~~Izno|~~Useddenim~~Izno]] ([[User talk:~~Useddenim~~Izno|talk]]) 0102:4917, 1924 June 2024 (UTC)

* {{tfd links|Grand_Rapids_and_Indiana_Railroad}}

::It has two links in the body. That does not justify a navigation box. --[[User:DB1729|'''''DB''''''''''1729''''']][[User talk:DB1729|'''''talk''''']] 11:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

==== [[Template:Piccadilly Page]] ====