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{{resolved}} For Alexander von Humboldt German International School Montreal

Hello! I'm trying to find any historical newspaper articles that give in-depth coverage to the school (known as "École internationale allemande Alexander von Humboldt" in French) in Montreal. This is for a relevant articles for deletion on FRwiki. I noticed Montreal Gazette had archives on Newspapers.com but I havent found other archives of English newspapers.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 13:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WhisperToMe, have you tried searching the Bibliothèque et Archives Nationales du Québec (BanQ)? They have pretty extensive archives over there. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. Lemme see what I can find there today. Thank you for the tip! WhisperToMe (talk) 15:51, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
From my first search result I found a good primary source: an international agreement on the operations of the school. It's not the secondary sources that I had looked for, but it's compelling and would be a good further reading entry. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WhisperToMe, what's the progress on this request? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 15:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Szmenderowiecki: The good news is that the FRwiki article survived its AFD due to other sources I found in English (and one in French). It's no longer critical to find these, though it may still be nice if a French speaking Wikipedian knew of additional resources and stumbled upon this request. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well I speak some French but I'm not based in Quebec so that's about everything I can offer.
You may try to look into archives of some Montreal newspapers, look here for possible candidates. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here's what I find of relevance from searching Dow Jones Factiva for humboldt montreal german school; there are 413 results, so I did a lot of skimming/skipping, but I eventually got to the end of the list. Let me know if you'd like me to send you content from or provide additional information about any of this; I already have your email address in case anything is too long for me to be comfortable with posting it publicly.
  • Articles featuring students or teachers from the school
  • Various articles mentioning various internal or external activities or events at the school, or events featuring the school in some way, sometimes including short descriptions and/or contact info (e.g. phone number, street address, URL) for the school
  • The following sources are easily confused; 2 and 3 are very similar but not identical, as shown by the sentence in the middle of the quotes.
    1. irmartinez (2 September 2017). "Language skills, especially German, at the core of AvH program". Postmedia Breaking News. Canwest News Service. At AvH, we consider learning a lifelong process. [...] In addition to their annual Terry Fox Run, AvH students each year adopt a specific charity project to support through fundraising activities - charities such as Dans La Rue and SOS Children's Village. This story was provided by Alexander von Humboldt German International School (http://www.avh.montreal.qc.ca/) for commercial purposes.
    2. "Languages and sciences a primary focus at Alexander von Humboldt school". Montreal Gazette. 5 September 2015. The Alexander von Humboldt German International School Montreal (AvH) is a selfcontained unit, teaching students from the very early stages of their school life (minikindergarten, preschool and kindergarten) right up to Grade 12 if they so choose. [...] AvH achieves that by offering instruction primarily in German to children in preschool and kindergarten; from Grade 1 to Grade 12, courses in English and French are added to the curriculum. [...] AvH also works with Montreal's Goethe Institute to promote German theatre and the arts.
    3. "Language skills, especially German, at the core of AvH program". The Montreal Gazette. Canwest News Service. Postmedia Breaking News. 2 September 2014. The Alexander von Humboldt German International School Montreal (http://bit.ly/1sXIEjR )(AvH) is a self-contained unit, teaching students from the very early stages of their school life (mini-kindergarten, pre-school and kindergarten) right up to Grade 12 if they so choose. [...] AvH achieves that by offering instruction primarily in German to children in preschool and kindergarten, but by Grade 1, courses in English and French are added to the curriculum. [...] AvH also works with Montreal's Goethe institute to promote German theatre and the arts. This story was produced by Postmedia's advertising department on behalf of AvH for commercial purposes. Postmedia's editorial departments had no involvement in the creation of this content.
  • Meagher, John (9 June 2022). "How a private German school in Quebec graduates trilingual students". Montreal Gazette. Postmedia Breaking News.
  • Habib, Marlene (26 September 2013). "Immersion goes beyond French; Adding a third language can connect a student to a family's past and expand future opportunities". The Globe and Mail (Breaking News).
  • A mention as an example of a language-based ethnic school
  • A two-sentence description in an article about Baie-d'Urfé: MARTIN, MEGAN (30 January 2013). "A quiet home by the Baie". The Montreal Gazette. Canwest News Service. Postmedia Breaking News.
  • "Emmanuel hails its science-fair stars: Lakeside academy plans families count! And Alexander von Humboldt International German School appeals to alumni to get in touch in advance of 25th anniversary". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 11 March 2004. p. F11.
  • A few sentences describing the school in: "Many preparing for cross-country run". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 15 October 2009. p. G15.
  • A short mention of their anniversary, including institutional contact info for a staff member, in a bajillion articles in Montreal Gazette / The Gazette, such as:
    • "Edgewater turns green for St. Paddy's: Kerry-Anne Kutz at Spring Garden Elementary. At St. Paul Elementary, Ignatius the leprechaun pays a visit and students dress in honour of St. Patrick's Day". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 18 March 2004. p. F14.
    • "Sweet taste of sugaring off: Clifford Lincoln visits Allancroft. Elementary students from Christmas Park and St. Anthony head to Cap St. Jacques". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 25 March 2004. p. F6.
    • "Students get reprieve from work: Spring break is here. Wilder Penfield provides food, gifts for 10 needy families". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 26 February 2004. p. F14.
  • School rankings in:
    • BLOCK, IRWIN (9 June 2007). "Final exam marks slip slightly in 2006, but English boards graduate more". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette.
    • GREENAWAY, KATHRYN (25 March 2015). "Private school tops exam rankings; West Island College No. 1, its French division No. 2 in provincial scoring". Montreal Gazette. p. D3.
  • Includes a member of the school's board: "DEATHS". Montreal Gazette. 10 April 2008. p. B7.
  • A brief mention of the school's history in school president Helmut Birk's section of: "BIRTH AND DEATH NOTICES". The Globe and Mail. 5 October 2020. p. B13.
  • An extremely short description in Martin, Megan (17 August 2013). "Community snapshot: Baie-d'Urfé". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. p. I2.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 08:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.
Searching for "Alexander von Humboldt German International School" gives some additional results:
  • Stuff in the categories I already mentioned
  • A mention of the school being near the park: "Wasp infestation closes Baie-D'Urfé park". West Island Gazette. Postmedia Breaking News. 14 April 2021.
Searching for "AvH German School" likewise:
  • "Welcome back, students!: AvH German school sees record enrolment". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 31 August 2006. p. F7.
  • Stuff in the categories I already mentioned
Searching for "AvH school" likewise:
  • Stuff in the categories I already mentioned
  • "Best wishes to grads, good summer to all: Schools say thanks, goodbye until the fall". Montreal Gazette / The Gazette. 23 June 2005. p. F4.
Searching for "AvH german international school" gives 213 results, I'll could look through them later, when I get a chance, but I think they might all fit in the categories I've already mentioned; let me know if I should look more thoroughly.
Please let me know what specifically you're interested in, if anything.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 08:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WhisperToMe: Did you see this, and do you want me to send you any of this? I already have your email address (for a request that I offered to fulfill but someone else did first), so I can easily send you stuff. Solomon Ucko (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko: Thank you for notifying me! I'm able to access the Montreal Gazette on Newspapers.com, so I will look at those articles via that site. However, I would like to have the sources from Postmedia and other papers that are not the Gazette. I'll look at them over the weekend. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:22, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WhisperToMe: Yes Sent an email with some content and a list of search results. Feel free to ask for more. Solomon Ucko (talk) 15:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WhisperToMe: Did you receive what you requested; are you ready to mark this {{resolved}}? --Worldbruce (talk) 13:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Worldbruce: I have the contact who can send me these. I'll e-mail the contact and I'll work on the articles over the weekend. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023

{{resolved}}

For Radoslav Holúbek, to help demonstrate notability. It is known that he is mentioned somewhere in the book, although the depth is uncertain.

Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: How did you find that he's mentioned in there? If you're able to determine the page number, I can request a scan from OCLC 40418362 via interlibrary loan. I'm in the US, and Google Books isn't even letting me search within the book, but are you able to search it from where you are?
If needed, I guess I could request the whole book and try to look through it myself, but I don't read Slovak, and I don't know if it has a useful index or table of contents, and I'd rather not look through 211 pages, so that might be too difficult.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko: I know he is mentioned in there because when I searched for "Holúbek Radoslav" (in quotes) on Google Books on 6 February, that book showed up as the only result, meaning there must have been a text or metadata match. It didn't say the page number, and frustratingly now when I search for that phrase GBooks says no results. Using some context we know about the person (i.e. his time period and event), we would have to find him in the whole book, I think. --Habst (talk) 13:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst:
Got it, I figured it was probably something like that, given how finicky and inconsistent Google Books is. Should I try requesting the whole book, then? Once it arrives (probably in a number of weeks), I'll send you the front and back matter, and you can let me know where you think he'd be most likely to be mentioned, and then I'll try to look through those parts to see where specifically he is mentioned.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 15:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko, okay, that will work. Thank you for doing this by the way, it is much appreciated. --Habst (talk) 15:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst: Alright, sounds good; I've requested it, then.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 15:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11 and Habst: I've received this, but why are there two of you? Sending copyrighted materials to multiple people seems possibly legally unfavorable, so I'll do my best to select just one of you.
If you're still interested, contact me via Special:EmailUser so I can send you files. If you're not interested, please let me know by any method so I can be aware.
I'll give User:BeanieFan11 priority due to initiating the request, but if User:Habst wants to do it, and User:BeanieFan11 doesn't reply for some unspecified amount of time or confirms they're not interested, I'll go ahead and work with User:Habst.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko: Sending to Habst would probably be better, given that he was leading the way for the article to be kept and was the one who originally found the source. (I'm also too busy to spend much effort in looking at the source currently.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks for letting me know. I've gotten an email from Habst asking for it, so I'll work with them, then.
FYI, I didn't get a ping, since I think it needs to be on a new line to work, but I get notifications for all non-minor edits to the page, so I saw it anyways. Sorry that my signature is different from my username.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko, I've sent you an email, thanks. --Habst (talk) 22:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11 and Habst: I'm having trouble finding any mention of Radoslav Holúbek in this book. I checked all the chapters and sections with no date or with a date on or after 1994. For alphabetical lists, I looked for both "Radoslav" and "Holúbek"; otherwise, I skimmed the whole thing. Should I look for any earlier years or any other spellings of his name?
If I don't get a response in about a week, or if my loan is recalled sooner, I'm planning to return the book then.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 23:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko, thank you so much for your help with this, also apologies for my slowness to respond after the first look. The bottom line is, when I try to search for "Holúbek Radoslav" in quotes on Google Books, you can see it shows up as a result: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Hol%C3%BAbek+Radoslav%22&tbm=bks. I even archived it to show that: https://web.archive.org/web/20240325182121/https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Hol%C3%BAbek+Radoslav%22&tbm=bks. I first found the book on 6 February, but then on 8 March when I tried the same query I got no results, and now when I try the query again I do get the book as a result.
Yet when we tried to look in the book, we couldn't find the name. As a hobby programmer, I'm very confused about this, because I don't see how Google could be displaying this book as the only result for the query in quotes if the search term wasn't present. At the same time, I don't want to hassle Sollyucko any more as it seems like he has already put in significant effort and time to search through it, and he has already looked through all of my recommendations based on my read of the front matter. For the next person to pick this up, maybe contacting the book author would be the best next step. Thank you again to Sollyucko. --Habst (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst: Yeah, I see it now too, huh. It shows up without a page number and is marked as "No Preview", and the metadata doesn't mention a library they obtained it from, so I don't know if they have the full text but are refusing to share it, or if they only have metadata.
As a test, I tried searching Google Books for various phrases in the book, and only some of them include the book in the search results, so I'm very confused. I suspect that at least one of the following is taking place:
  • I keep making typos
  • Google has a bad OCR of the book
  • Google only has text for part of the book
  • Google is intentionally hiding some results due to copyright/licensing restrictions
  • Google doesn't actually have full text for the book, and is just guessing based on the book's metadata and references from other sources to the book
  • IDK what else could cause this, but let me know if you think of any other possiblities
Google Books is super useful, but its search results are so finicky, inconsistent, and unreliable; I find it very frustrating...
I plan to hold on to the book for a few more days in case anyone has any more ideas or anything else they'd like me to try, but I'll need to return it eventually, and I'm not sure there's much point in keeping it for too much longer.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 19:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11 and Habst: Running out of ideas and seeing no response for a week, I'm going to return this book. I guess this request is {{resolved}}, then?
Solomon Ucko (talk) 17:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sollyucko, OK, thank you for your help. I also don't have any more ideas, other than contacting the author or looking elsewhere for sources. Another possibility is that Google is using some form of AI for searches, and it is simply "guessing" that the quoted search terms are in this book because of the related topic. I wish it was more transparent. --Habst (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Habst: Yeah, I guess so... I'm wondering about contacting Google, but I'm not sure how likely they are to respond... I guess I'll return the book now, and if we come up with any more leads for where to look in the future, I can try to request it again.
Solomon Ucko (talk) 17:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, has someone access to "Messerli, B. "Llullaillaco-Klimageschichte der Hochgebirgswüste zwischen Tropen und Exktropen im Norden von Chile." Festvortrag zür Emeritierungsfeier von Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Weischet. Universität Freiburg, April1989 (1989)."? For Llullaillaco

Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see if German Wikipedia can find this. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC) {{resolved}}[reply]

Greetings, has someone access to:

Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, found these another way. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC) {{resolved}}[reply]

Greetings, has someone access to "CABROL, N. A., HOCK, A. N., GRIN, E. A., KOVACS, G. T., & PARAZYNSKI, S. (2005, October). COMBINATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL EXTREMES IN ALTIPLANIC LAKES AND THE PAST HABITABILITY OF MARS. In 2005 Salt Lake City Annual Meeting"? For Licancabur

Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, unlikely to work. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC) {{resolved}}[reply]

{{Resolved}} Sorry everyone, one of these again! But if anyone's got access to the following, could they look up "Green, Henrietta" in the index? Google shows me no preview, and its not on IA (that I can see, anyway!) Much appreciated if possible.

Thanks! ——Serial Number 54129 18:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Serial Number 54129: What do you want to know about Henrietta Green? The "Food and produce" section of the book is written by her. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 15:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Blast! Thanks Doc Taxon for that effort, and sorry—the no-preview Gbooks blurb gave no indication that it was an edited collection. She kickstarted the market's modern success until they subsequently banned her, which sounds tasty, but I guess that's more likely in a history section. I guess even PST allows her views on the thing she's best known for *scratch chin* ——Serial Number 54129 16:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Doc Taxon: apologies, I was slightly vague back then—but, to clarify, would you happen to have access to that chapter, by any chance? ——Serial Number 54129 15:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: You mean the "Food and produce" section? Let me look for it – Doc Taxon • Talk • 05:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: Sorry, I can't get this book to scan the chapter. Look for another user here having access to it. Kind regards – Doc Taxon • Talk • 13:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries Doc, it would've been a very-primary source, so only of peripheral interest, I imagine. Thanks for going to the trouble anyway! ——Serial Number 54129 13:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have access for these conference papers? For Voyager program.

Thanks, Artem.G (talk) 18:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you get #2 in the Wikipedia Library: find it here
– Doc Taxon • Talk • 22:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
got it, thanks! Artem.G (talk) 05:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Artem.G:   Sent the remainder via email. DanCherek (talk) 15:37, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
perfect, thank you!
{{Resolved}} Artem.G (talk) 18:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would greatly appreciate the following chapter to help with my rewrite of the Kes (Star Trek) article. This should be my last request for this particular project. While I can access a lot of this chapter on Google Books, there are still some missing pages that I would like to look through.

Thank you in advance! Aoba47 (talk) 22:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Doing... – Doc Taxon • Talk • 22:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoba47: Please send me a wikimail to provide you with the chapter. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 13:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Doc Taxon: Sent you an email. Thank you again for your help. Aoba47 (talk) 16:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoba47:   Sent – Doc Taxon • Talk • 20:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Received. Thank you. {{resolved}} Aoba47 (talk) 21:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Stars and planetary systems in fiction.

Thanks in advance. TompaDompa (talk) 15:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa:   Sent via email. DanCherek (talk) 15:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That was fast. Thank you very much. TompaDompa (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{{resolved}}