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Just looking at comments from TRM, especially on his talk page, I'd like to clarify: did he agree to a '''one-sided''' IBAN? I believe you that he agreed, so his response gives me the feeling that whatever it was he agreed to is different from what you guys announced. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) <small>Become [[User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values|old fashioned!]]</small> 10:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

:Most of Arbcom aren't Wikipedia editors so it may take a few weeks to get any response here. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 19:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

::{{replyto|Dweller}} the general concept of an iban was raised, and a response requested, but we didn't seek pre-agreement on it (and obviously, that agreement doesn't exist). Per what's posted at the start of this thread, there is disagreement between us and The Rambling Man on whether the edits in question were disruptive or not; in the end the committee unanimously agreed that they were. Other remedies were also discussed, this was the one that the majority supported.

::It is probably the mildest possible remedy outside of the pointless "admonishment" stuff that sometimes appears in PD's. It is not designed to point fingers of blame, it does not disrupt ordinary editing for anyone involved, it doesn't prevent people campaigning for reform on any topic, and it doesn't halt advocacy for any change to policy. It simply prevents a continuation of one particular set of commentary that was disruptive to the editing environment.

::There's discussion in this thread about whether the committee should have imposed a two-way iban instead of a one-way one; on the information before the committee at the time this didn't seem warranted. However nothing in this remedy prevents any future dispute resolution decisions, if that's also required. As a general point I don't think ibans are a great solution to anything, but they're what we have in the toolbox. In an ordinary workplaces things like this could be resolved entirely by face-to-face communication, but alas thats less easy when we're all online. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 21:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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