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== Political bias rampant ==

Shameful [[User:Bluecabin2018afr|Bluecabin2018afr]] ([[User talk:Bluecabin2018afr|talk]]) 00:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

== Incompleteness ==

This page covers simple cases of "Addition" and "Removal", but does not cover any variety of "Change" (e.g., copyediting, changing the meaning, rearranging). Should it? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 20:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|WhatamIdoing}}, the thing to remember is that this restriction only comes into effect when someone ''objects'' to a change. But it doesn't really matter if it involves plus or minus bytes being added/removed. Even whenever there is zero byte change accompanying an edit, it would still involve new letters being ''added'' (replacing older ones) to change words in sentences (or a new image or template replacing an older one, whatever). The focus is on the alteration of <u>longstanding</u> content. That's it. Hope that answers your question. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 23:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

== What's this page for? ==

Different editors seem to have different views on the purpose of this page. One possible interpretation is that this is a specific set of rules that is more restrictive than average and which applies only when [[Wikipedia:Discretionary sanctions]] about consensus are being enforced. The other obvious interpretation is that this is meant to explain the normal, everyday approach to consensus-based collaborative editing.  [[User:El C]], what was your intent?  [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 20:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

:Can't those both be true at the same time? This restriction follows the same dynamic as Consensus but is much strict, similar to 1RR vs 3RR. [[User:Kolya Butternut|Kolya Butternut]] ([[User talk:Kolya Butternut|talk]]) 20:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

::"Everyday" and "much stricter than everyday" cannot both be true at the same time. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 23:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

:::This discretionary sanction can largely be seen as a more strict (''binding'') version of [[WP:ONUS]]. So, while ONUS ''ought'' to be observed, one is unlikely to face sanctions for failing to do so, even multiple times (though someone who chronically ignores it, eventually, probably will). [[User:El_C|El_C]] 23:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)