Wikipedia talk:Notability: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

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:::* You say that like that's a big change. There IS an implicit restriction on the content of a topic beyond our policies. [[WP:UNDUE]] and [[WP:NNC]] suggest that covering every single non-notable aspect of a notable topic would not be appropriate. [[User:Randomran|Randomran]] ([[User talk:Randomran|talk]]) 16:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::::* It is a big change if we are allowing the only definition of notability to be "significant coverage in secondary sources"; UNDUE and NNC are neutral on the exact definition of notability , but once defined, it describes what should be done with non-notable aspects. However I still feel that there is room for balancing both a strict adherence to notable topics via sources, while also allowing certain allowances within the context of other policy/guidelines and WP's general mission that we can further include concise, balanced details of non-notable aspects of a notable topic to provide well-rounded coverage that ''all'' readers of that topic (those learning for it for the first time, and those that already know it and want to know more) can appreciate. I stress heavily that this is a balance that has to be achieved - it is not free passes for separate articles for every non-notable topic, nor to use a separate list as a new empty glass to fill with excess details. We still want a high quality encyclopedia that minimizes OR and POV, and is verifiable through established sources, and notability should help towards that. The question is, exactly what is the balance between the rigorousness of notability to meet those aspects, and the extent that WP is not paper or simply a traditional encyclopedia thus allowing for farther expansion in what topics it can cover? --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] 16:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

::::* I don't think we'll ever have a problem with less notable aspects of a topic being covered in a main article. I understand that you're worried about WP:SIZE. But I don't think it's possible to violate WP:SIZE without having either (1) enough good sources to support a split or (2) too much inappropriate information that violates WP:UNDUE, WP:NOT, WP:OR, WP:NNC and so on... [[User:Randomran|Randomran]] ([[User talk:Randomran|talk]]) 16:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== More discussion on the changes I tried to make. ==