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:I believe this is a compromise because it preserves lots of the existing phrasing and tone, and uses the existing source. [[User:Leijurv|Leijurv]] ([[User talk:Leijurv|talk]]) 00:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

::No, cherry-picking sources to suit your own particular narrative is in no way a 'compromise'. In no way does 'imitating the actions of colonists and military personnel' typify the cults. And as has been explained umpteen times, neither does 'pursuit of a coming bounty of Western goods or money'. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 02:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

:::This is getting silly. {{tqq|Cherry-picking sources}} I used the existing sources from the lede. Do you not agree that Lindstrom (2018) is a good source? It's already cited six times in the current lede and another ten times in the body. Also, {{tqq|imitating the actions of colonists and military personnel}} is ''already in the lede'', I didn't change that phrase, which you can clearly see in the diff. And the lede ''currently says'' {{tqq|some groups foretold the coming of a bounty of Western goods or money}}. Finally, the ritual being in "pursuit" of cargo is directly taken from the abstract of Lindstrom: {{tqq|... the modal cargo cult was an agitation or organised social movement of Melanesian villagers '''in pursuit of ‘cargo’ by means of renewed or invented ritual action''' that they hoped would induce ancestral spirits or other powerful beings to provide. Typically, an inspired prophet with messages from those spirits persuaded a community that social harmony and engagement in improvised ritual (dancing, marching, flag-raising) or revived cultural traditions '''would, for believers, bring them cargo'''. Ethnographers suggested that '''‘cargo’ was often Western commercial goods and money''', but it could also signify moral salvation, existential respect, or proto-nationalistic, anti-colonial desire for political autonomy. ...}} Emphasis mine. [[User:Leijurv|Leijurv]] ([[User talk:Leijurv|talk]]) 02:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)