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Should Jimmy Savile still be referred to as Sir? 86.9.164.144 (talk) 19:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

The article says: "As a knighthood expires when the holder dies, it cannot be posthumously revoked. The Cabinet Office stated in September 2021, with reference to his OBE and knighthood, that "The Forfeiture Committee can confirm that had James Wilson Vincent Savile been convicted of the crimes of which he is accused, forfeiture proceedings would have commenced." But, if you do refer to him as Sir, I don't think he'll thank you for it. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
the FaQ says we do. Babysharkboss2 was here!! Dr. Wu is NOT a Doctor! 15:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Savile died before he could be prosecuted and convicted of any crimes, so strictly speaking this Category cannot be used. But the circumstantial evidence seems to be more than sufficient enough to warrant its use, in my view. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the evidence is enough to invoke the Fred West factor here. Had Savile lived and been prosecuted under today's rules, he would have been convicted of rape. However, categories like "sex offender" have been removed per WP:CATV because he was never convicted during his lifetime.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
p.s. there has been a similar addition at Cyril Smith. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Why on earth is his presenting roles listed before the fact he’s a convicted sex offender. 82.47.169.139 (talk) 14:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

He isn't a convicted sex offender, the most interesting thing about Savile is that he was never arrested or prosecuted during his lifetime.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Change Sir Jimmy Saville (OBE) to Jimmy Saville. He had his honours stripped of him.

Change order of introduction and name him as a sexual predator first. Andyhall1986ad (talk) 10:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: the article currently says this (emphasis added):
"Following the allegations of sexual abuse, British Prime Minister David Cameron suggested in October 2012 that it would be possible for Savile's honours to be rescinded by the Honours Forfeiture Committee. A Cabinet Office spokesman said that there was no procedure to posthumously revoke an OBE or knighthood, as these honours automatically expire when a person dies, but that the committee might consider introducing a process to do so in the light of Savile's case.[1] On 30 September 2021, the Forfeiture Committee published a statement in The London Gazette stating that "the Director for Public Prosecutions has stated that criminal prosecutions should have occurred during his lifetime, based on the evidence" and confirmed that "had James Wilson Vincent Savile been convicted of the crimes of which he is accused, forfeiture proceedings would have commenced."[2]".
Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Could Jimmy Savile lose knighthood over abuse claims?". BBC News. 9 October 2012. Archived from the original on 11 November 2020. Retrieved 8 October 2012.
  2. ^ "Honours and Awards JAMES WILSON VINCENT SAVILE". Retrieved 13 October 2022.