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Hi @Timtrent Thanks for your inputs on the draft page, MAAsterG. Quite enlightening. I have removed references to Youtube link citations as I was unable to ascertain if a video is in fact protected by copyright or not. I have also made changes as per the Manual of Style. Please review this and let me know if any further inputs or if this is good to go. Thanks again ARGHJ (talk) 08:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@ARGHJ I am afraid you will need to trust your own instincts. I am travelling for the next couple of weeks 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have reinstated those links, including the dailymail link that was removed. Oldcheese8552 (talk) 09:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) Oldcheese8552 Your edit here [1] was entirely disruptive, adding back deprecated sources to The WP:Daily Mail and WP:IMDb. Theroadislong (talk) 09:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oldcheese8552 I concur. And why you didn't create a new heading is beyond my understanding 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have just made changes to the article in question and I would like to have your feedback on it if it is good or not; also regarding the two accounts underlined above it was an error on my part and I have already explained myself on that, Waiting for your return, thank you Inspiringflow (talk) 13:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Inspiringflow Please do not await a review from me. As it said when you made this post, and as it says at the head of this page "I do not review drafts on request, nor, normally, do I review a draft more than once, so please do not ask"

Wth regard to the twin accounts, It is not an issue provided you have discarded one of them. If you have edited from both after being warned about it then it is not an error. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

For the twin account please delete it, I don't know how to do it, I'm talking more precisely about deleting inspiringflow1 Inspiringflow (talk) 17:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Inspiringflow Accounts cannot be deleted. They may be rendered useless. Please deploy {{admin help me}} on your user talk page and explain that the (abandoned) account was an error and that you wish it to be blocked to avoid future misunderstanding. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I just saw your comment in an AFD that GPTZero thinks that something was written by artificial intelligence. I assume that more specifically means by a large language model. What is GPTZero? Is it a program that tries to detect writing by large language models? Sometimes text is detected as possibly AI-written that, to a retired IT engineer, reads like marketing buzzspeak, sales material that may be attempting to dazzle or amaze the reader. In the computer industry, such stuff was typically written by sales personnel, and was viewed with disgust by the engineers who did the real technical work. The large language model may have been trained on a base of material that includes marketing literature. So if a large language model writes marketing buzzspeak, it may be imitating blatant marketing writing by humans. It doesn't matter much, because any draft containing marketing buzzspeak should be declined or rejected, and an article containing marketing buzzspeak should probably be nominated for deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Robert McClenon My working life was as a bullshit and hype creator for US IT companies. Oddly, it's an art to write appealing(!) ordure. I can quite see what you're saying here. Training LLMs with 'ordinary' text alone is foolish, as is using concise engineers' pieces.

I have found Open AI useful in creating job descriptions for the charoty I volunteer for, but useless in writing meaningful prose 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 04:51, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

So what is GPTZero? Is it meant to be an AI detector? If it is really a bullshit detector, how does it tell human shit from computer shit from the output of real bovines? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Robert McClenon It is reputed to be an AI detector, presumably based upon phraseology. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 05:00, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your comment about my article draft Katy Krassner. I understand your point and hope you will now move to immediately delete articles about both Tree Paine and Derek Taylor, both of whom do not meet your very narrow definition of Wikipedia:Notability (people). Variety312 (talk) 19:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Variety312 You are welcome to nominate them for deletion yourself. All editors may do this. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 05:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello! Recently you reviewed my page Junbo-Ritsugō and accepted it. Since then another editor has come in and at first made good edits. Now I feel they are dragging it and I don't know if they know much about the topic. They won't leave the page alone, but all the sources and wording ect are fine. I am a student, I can't keep editing. Since you were in Wikipedia longer I hope they will respect you. Could you review the page just one more time, and remove anything unnecessary from both me and the other editor. I am asking as they said in the past that the page should be moved back to a draft. They don't seem to hold this sentiment anymore, but it still seems appropriate for you to review this page just one more time and maybe leave a report in the talk page so I know how well you found the page. As well as this, you could also remove irrelevant stuff or change stuff too. I apologise for the inconvenience but unfortunately I feel the other editor is dragging this and as I've said, I'm a student to I don't have time. Although I'm sure your busy to, if you have the free time please re review the page. I apologise Camillz (talk) 07:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Camillz This is very much a WP:Content dispute between two editors. I do not get involved in these. If you cannot sort it out between you on the article talk page then you will need to use WP:DRN.

My sole concern was notability, which I believe it passed when I accepted the draft. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Alright. Thank you! Camillz (talk) 07:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Camillz There are technical reasons why it should not be moved to Draft unilaterally. I have noted those on the talk page.

Content disputes can almost always be solved with the Dispute Resolution process. Since there is never a deadline here I think you will have the time to interleave this with your studies. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you so much! As per the recommendations of the content dispute. If they continue I will wait until they have moved on so this doesn't stress me. Again thank you very much Camillz (talk) 07:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Camillz It's important to realise that the other editor has a firm belief that they are correct, equally as firm as your belief that you are correct. Wikipedia teaches us many interpersonal skills that we can and should translate to our everyday lives. Here, we learn how to interact with the typed word. That works well in any area in our real lives we choose to apply it to. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes of course! I am truly greatful this has been a great help!! Genuinely thank you- Camillz (talk) 07:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply