Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Çiçek Izgara - Wikipedia

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The result was delete. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 13:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Çiçek Izgara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Çiçek Izgara is a restaurant. All we know about it is that it is in Turkey, and, according to original research, they supposedly have great chops and meatballs. No attempt to establish notability. -- ArglebargleIV 03:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Sorry, Elmer, but we're not a good spot to post the reviews. --Dennisthe2 03:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. A restaurant needs a lot to be notable. Even "seats 150" doesn't necessarily mean it makes the cut - there are thousands of restaurants which do that. If the restaurant had some historical or political significance, sure. But this is nothing special. -Monk of the highest order^(t) 03:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletions. --Slgrandson (page - messages - contribs) 05:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The restaurant name gets over 2000 Google hits, but in Turkish, so it is hard to tell if they count as good sources to show notability. Perhaps some who speak the language can see if there are sufficient sources to show its notability, or can check for sources in Turkish Wikipedia. Inkpaduta 15:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The N.Y. Times lists five restaurants in Bursa, and the review of this one, while positive enough, says nothing indicating that it is notable in the Wikipedia sense. --Macrakis 17:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep;Article itself satisfy the requirements of Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies). There are numerous independent sources in Turkish and English (Google search)which refers this restaurant.Must^TC 18:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as article stands now, with no references. If references are provided, perhaps keep article. Αργυριου (talk) 19:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Here are some independent and reliable references;Frommers, Travel.Nytimes, Travel.Yahoo, Travel.Msn, Virtual Tourist, Travel.webshots.Must^TC 19:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Frommers, N.Y. Times, and MSN references are the exact same one short paragraph restaurant review. The MSN reference is a one sentence plug saying that its is elegant and serves good food. The Webshots reference is a single picture of the restaurant. The Virtual Tourist reference is a review by a tourist. I'm sure that it's a good, probably even excellent restaurant, but there are a lot of excellent restaurants. The references fail to establish any notability beyond reviewing the food. -- ArglebargleIV 20:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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