Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Esna Park Drive - Wikipedia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, for lack of non-trivial coverage. Simply connecting two other "notable" roads isn't enough; as User:RockMFR said, this would make every road notable. Trebor 12:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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An entirely non-notable street with zero non-trivial secondary sources. This road is just over one mile long and has in the past had potholes. It's also quiet on weekends. That's about all that can be said about it. This is part of a much larger walled garden whose scope I have yet to measure. --- RockMFR 17:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per above. A short street with no real notability or any news attached to it. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 19:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep. This article is a significant road in Town of Markham. This road is responsible for soothing traffic congestions on Steeles Avenue and Highway 7. It is also responsible for connecting the two sections of York Regional Road 71. It is an arterial route by Markham, Ontario. I'd say this rejects all of Dysepsion's reason.  Smcafirst | Chit-Chat  posted at 20:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• By that logic, almost every road in the world would be notable. --- RockMFR 20:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete notability not established in the article. The article, however, is a great effort. I hope not to discourage such efforts. TonyTheTiger 00:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletions. Dl2000 22:59, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - the subject is established as an arterial road, a major road category which is notable well beyond an ordinary local street. Note also the discussion in AfD discussion on Trim Road (Ottawa), which resulted in keeping that article. Dl2000 00:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I know the road. It's an unremarkable piece of asphalt that goes from nowhere to nowhere. Suttungr 04:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Should we delete articles based on original research now? Carolfrog 03:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Frankly, after doing a quick scan of MapArt I think I can safely say that the only remotely encyclopedic roads in Markham are continuations of roads that start outside of Markham; there doesn't appear to be a single road exclusive to Markham which really merits an article. Delete; a one-mile road through an industrial park which exists mainly as a connecting link between two other non-encyclopedic roads isn't particularly deserving of an article. Bearcat 21:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I am sorry, Bearcat, but this road is connecting two encyclopedic articles, John Street and York Regional Road 71. Stephy100--A person who loves music! 02:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, look! John Street's up for AFD too! And will ya look at that: Pharmacy Road isn't Regional Road 71; all this road does is intersect with a street that eventually becomes RR71. And even then, being a connecting link between two other roads is not a legitimate claim of notability — the key to whether a street belongs in an encyclopedia or not isn't whether it exists, but how likely it is that somebody who lives hundreds of miles away, and has never been to Markham in their lives, has already heard of the street, because it has a cultural context that transcends its streetness. You know, like Broadway or Park Avenue or Yonge Street or Sussex Drive or Sunset Boulevard. Esna Park Drive is simply not in that category of roads. Bearcat 04:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for lack of nontrivial coverage by independent sources. I do want to discourage such efforts- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a directory, and not an atlas. Friday (talk) 22:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep. A notable street, from what I know, there used to be an Esna Park there. The street is responsible for connecting the two major roads. Stephy100--A person who loves music! 02:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh, oh! There is a street nearby where I live that connects two major highways. And then another street connects to that one. And then the street I live on connects to that! w00t! Notable! Does that mean I'm notable, too? Sorry for the sarcasm, but "connecting the two major roads" is just too ridiculous to ignore. --- RockMFR 01:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Roads are not automatically notable: notability must be asserted and evidenced in the article, and this is not done. Sorry, but it must go. WMMartin 14:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. per Stephy100. Mix Precipitation 01:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.