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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. WP:SNOW The Bushranger One ping only 07:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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This AfD is related to this AfD related to Warren Chaney. Long story short, this article is one of a few Chaney related articles that were created by SPAs. A look at the articles and its sources show the same issues as the America article. Very few of them can actually be verified and the ones that can be linked to show that they're pretty obviously unusable. What makes things worse is that many of the unverifiable sources claim to be published through outlets that have released work within at least the past 1-2 years, yet there's pretty much no record of these publications on the Internet. Now I will note that the publisher's website has images of the files, but I don't know that I can trust them given that there's pretty much zero record of these publications on the Internet. I have to assume that even if they do exist, the lack of information about them would make them unverifiable as far as editorial oversight goes and would thus make them unusable.
It also doesn't help that the article also relies quite heavily on sources that are primary in one way or another as in the case with the Swapsale links, which shows that the site sold these books at one point in time and the person who wrote the Swapsale review also knows Chaney. Furthermore, the article tries to claim that the sale page is actually a review for the books. On top of all of this, there are some links that are misrepresented as links that comment upon the book... but don't actually mention the book.
There are also links that are about the show as a whole. Notability is not inherited and as far as I can tell, these books are not official merchandise and I have to assume that this is someone's fanfiction. A look at the publisher shows that they only publish work by two authors, one of which is Chaney. Also interesting is that although the book page says that the publisher is located in London (per the infobox) the website says that it's American. I'm also uncertain as to whether or not Chaney is part of the publishing company or not. There's nothing to really back this up, but it's usually suspicious when a publisher only sells the work of 1-2 authors and is usually a sign that it was started by said individuals.
I've made a runthrough of the sources on the article's talk page and I'll post those here in a moment. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 22:58, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Here are the sources. I left off the last few since they were already used above and it'd be somewhat redundant to repost them. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 22:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Note: I've opened up an AfD for another Chaney related article here, for Magic Mansion and the related list article. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 00:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. None of the sources can be trusted, even those on the publisher's website, which is registered to Steven Deyo, supposed Director of Public Relations at Adjei Productions, which links back to Chaney himself. This isn't a publisher with any kind of reputation at all, existing only as a front for the American: A Call for Greatness website (itself registered to someone at Chaney's company) and the Space Patrol books. As with the reviewers of that 'film', the images of reviews from other publications can't be verified. Nor even can their publishers' existence. Oh, and as for the "Remington-Collier, London" tag, there's no record of this publisher with Companies House either. Steve T • C 23:06, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Solid work on finding the link to Chaney. I figured that this was the case. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 23:25, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per lack of verifiability, as detailed by Tokyogirl79 and Steve. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 23:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Yet another use of WikiP for WP:SELFPROMOTION by this group of SPA's. My thanks to everyone involved for your work in uncovering this. MarnetteD|Talk 23:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per an epic failure in sourcing as analyzed above. Even if there is some legitimacy to the topic, what is currently here is unusable and requires deletion. — CactusWriter (talk) 00:03, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Dbrodbeck (talk) 00:12, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. It's on sale at Amazon, but there's no evidence that it ever received significant coverage in reliable sources. I'd agree with the prevailing opinion that it's best to TNT-delete these articles and start over from scratch once there are enough sources to potentially show notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:30, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:31, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. sst✈(discuss) 07:55, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. sst✈(discuss) 08:00, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, does not meet the significant coverage requirement of WP:GNG. sst✈(discuss) 08:02, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete delete delete. No notability and no reliable sources. Permstrump (talk) 09:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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