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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. beside that, the article is largely unsourced (especially from what needs sources) and looks like plain (self)promo. The fact that he plays/played in a popular band that not make him automatically notable, as notability is not inherited. The Banner talk 10:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He was FRONTMAN and founder of one of the most well known bands in former Yugoslavia, not just some member of some band. On this alone, he is very notable.
Being a member of a notable band, does not make the members of the band automatically notable. Notability is not inherited. The Banner talk 10:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: reverting to a promo-free version proved useless as one user keeps adding the removed info. The Banner talk 13:40, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
His career in marketing has now been moved downwards, as it is not what he is best known for (though his company is very much notable in Serbia, and even conspiracy theories abound about his influence and control of DS).
  • Speedy keep As one of the original authors of the article, before its unfortunate expansion, I must say that the article passes notability standards, in terms of the musical career, which concerns me most. My suggestion would be semi-protection of an acceptable version of the article. --Milosppf (talk) 18:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep. Srdjan Saper is not only a famous musician (band Idoli was one of the most important in Serbian new wave), also actor (main role in cult movie Davitelj protiv Davitelja, but is a very influential person in Serbia today, adviser of former president Boris Tadic, and, via his media company, one of the most influential media moguls in Serbia. Why this was suggested for deletion, is quite strange indeed. Look at the Serbian sources for him, [1], [2] etc (google translate to see what it says). 78.30.132.61 (talk) 01:49, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He was frontman, founder of the band. Also, an actor. Also, a very famous person in all ex-yugoslavia. Thus, this proposal for deletion is nonsense. Besides, there are articles on ALL members of the band; the band is so notable in Yugoslavia, your ridiculous "argument" would be just as valid, as if you wanted to erase Ringo Star article, on the basis that he is merely a member of some famous band. Or Lennon or Paul for that matter (as a more valid comparison). How about we start deleting articles about most important rock musicians from Netherlands? Why dont you suggest that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.132.61 (talk) 18:34, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep. How did his notability change since you The Banner nominated it for deletion last time, less than a year ago? From the history, I see there is a promotion/sockpuppetry problem, which can be solved by protection or blocking; WP:RFPP is third door down the corridor. I added the article to my watchlist and reverted it to the promo-free version, if that will make you feel better. No such user (talk) 10:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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