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== How much eugenol in spices ==

:Does ordinary spice (cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, bay leaf, etc.) in an ordinary serving (around 1 <b>table</b>spoon, not 1 teaspoon, have enough eugenol for any (even the tiniest) amount of anasthesia? Or does it have to be refined? This is not a druggy question, if that is what you're thinking. [[Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg|20px]][[User:Mitth'raw'nuruodo|<fontem facestyle="font-family:verdana"><em><fontspan style="color=:blue">Chiss</span> <fontspan style="color=:red">Boy</emspan></font></font></font></fontem>]] 16:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

::Suuuuuurrre it's not... <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.56.24.206|24.56.24.206]] ([[User talk:24.56.24.206|talk]]) 04:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I´m allergic to metil-eugenol and the ammount of it in spices (except for jamaican pepper and clove) isn´t enough to cause me allergic reactions. So I´d guess anasthesia (with normally would need FAR more metil-eugenol than what´s needed to trigger an allergic reaction) is ruled out. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/200.169.41.123|200.169.41.123]] ([[User talk:200.169.41.123|talk]]) 19:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Half Life==

:What is the halflife of eugenol in the human body? [[Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg|20px]][[User:Mitth'raw'nuruodo|<font face=verdana><em><font color=blue>Chiss <font color=red>Boy</em></font></font></font></font>]] 16:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

==MDMA PrecursorHalf Life ==

:What is the halflife of eugenol in the human body? [[Image:Flag_of_the_United_States.svg|20px]][[User:Mitth'raw'nuruodo|<fontem facestyle="font-family:verdana"><em><fontspan colorstyle="color:blue">Chiss</span> <fontspan colorstyle="color:red">Boy</emspan></font></font></font></fontem>]] 16:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Eugenol is listed on several clandestine chemistry websites as being useful as a precursor to MDMA, but I couldn't find a governmental or published reference to this. [[User:Reb42|Reb42]] ([[User talk:Reb42|talk]]) 19:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

::SuuuuuurrreAbout it'stwo nothours <ref> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1665427/ </ref> <smallspan style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24200.56169.2441.206123|24200.56169.2441.206123]] ([[User talk:24200.56169.2441.206123|talk]]) 0419:1814, 930 NovemberJanuary 20072013 (UTC)</smallspan><!-- Template:UnsignedIPUnsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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== How about this medical research? ==

Acaricidal Activity of Eugenol Based Compounds against Scabies Mites

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2920318/

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::It appears to be about methyl eugenol and eugenol. Not the same compound.[[User:JohnSRoberts99|JSR]] ([[User talk:JohnSRoberts99|talk]]) 15:37, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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== Weedkiller and pest control ==

Use in "biological" weed killers and (at least in Tomcat brand) glue traps. Clove oil or eugenol are listed in some "bio" weed killer. Both clove oil or eugenol are listed in DIY weed control and pest control (e.g. roaches) recipes making the rounds on the web. People are likely to come here for background information. Might be nice if something could be added here. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:1C60:45E0:35BD:3D78:99F0:8B75|2600:1700:1C60:45E0:35BD:3D78:99F0:8B75]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:1C60:45E0:35BD:3D78:99F0:8B75|talk]]) 19:01, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

:Needs a [[WP:SCIRS]] source. I coudn't find one strong enough to use. [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 21:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

::Is a univeristy extension site good enough? https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/W245.pdf page 7 There are many other examples. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/eugenol Section 3.6 Here's a government site for pesticide use of a derived substance methyl eugenol. https://archive.epa.gov/pesticides/reregistration/web/pdf/methyl_eugenol_tred.pdf This one mentions fungicide, which was new to me https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/eugenol#section=Agrochemical-Information section 9. Tomcat https://www.tomcatbrand.com/en-us/products/mice/tomcat-glue-traps-mouse-size-eugenol-enhanced-stickiness One "online recipe" site https://www.naturepest.com/articles/clove-oil-eugenol-a-pesticide-against-insects-mites-and-fungus/ No endorsements from any lesser dieties, though, if wikipedia requires that these days. --[[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7|2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7|talk]]) 00:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

:::Used the PubChem ref (which was already in the lede, but revised since) to make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eugenol&diff=1051535680&oldid=1051533077&diffmode=source these two revisions.] Hope that covers your concerns. [[User:Zefr|Zefr]] ([[User talk:Zefr|talk]]) 03:31, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

::::Thanks. It's an improvement. Although US farmers might wonder whether they are now part of the European Union. LOL. The EPA has a code for it, so they know. https://iaspub.epa.gov/sor_internet/registry/substreg/searchandretrieve/substancesearch/search.do;jsessionid=WrO2z2O4tK0Mv3gmey8Aqq9qVEms3_LBhbdoPDCniove1nA6C30y!2139458256?synId=1359261&displaySynonym=

I'm surprised how little is coming up, But I think the FDA is caught in the conundrum that the substance does exist naturally in foodstuff and they don't want to have to regulate it.[[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7|2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:1C60:45E0:B531:4DBA:1E06:66F7|talk]]) 09:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)