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Line 1,950: :::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Bob drobbs|Bob drobbs]], there is no urgency to polish the language. Editors here could spend hours getting language polished that may end up being completely revised in the end, which means they'd have been wasting their time making your interim fix. And multiple people coming in here and demanding such interim fixes can quickly become disruptive to the process of creating the update. There's a reason this talk page is semi'd. It's because we know editors with fewer than 500 edits may not understand the process of working in the most contentious areas. You're going to need to respect that process. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 20:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::::::::::::On the other hand, this page is currently under a consensus required restriction, but there doesn't really seem to be a consensus for the current text. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">[[User_talk:Andrevan|🚐]]</span> 20:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::::::::::::I'm not going to try to figure out what there's consensus for or against here. If you think there is consensus for something and other editors here are refusing to follow it, show what that consensus is. Preferably in as few diffs as possible. :::::::::::::::::::::::The entire community is hyper aware of the problems in this CTOP, and some of the accusations of cherrypicking I'm seeing from you over the past week or so are making me wonder if you're going to be a net positive here. You've been making these accusations of cherrypicking over your argument that a list of BESTSOURCES about Zionism shouldn't be limited to a list of books primarily about Zionism when (as far as I can tell from this behemoth of a discussion) no one else seems to be arguing that books on the BESTSOURCES list are the only sources that can be used, period. Let's ignore the question of how that actually falls under the definition of cherrypicking: your basic argument feels like nitpicking, and nitpicking here -- especially at a point when people are trying to develop a vision and an overall plan -- is probably not productive. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 11:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::::::::::::::::::@[[User:Valereee|Valereee]] the semi has expired on this talk page. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 03:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::::::::::::::::::TP (or anyone), if disruption starts up from non-EC editors, ping me. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 11:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC) | |||