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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of War in Afghanistan (2001–present)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "bbc2":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 04:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of War in Afghanistan (2001–present)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Ed_Darack_Victory_Point":

Reference named "Ed_Darack_Marine_Corps_Gazette":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 12:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Not a single native source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.73.202 (talk) 06:06, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I don't know. I see The Guardian, The Daily Beast, C-SPAN, The Washington Times, and many other fairly well-known sources in addition to many others. The first entry in "View History" for this article says it was created 2019-03-19T16:56:40‎ by copying the "History" section of the main article. With 454 total "References", it seems unlikely that it was writted by the CIA.
By "Not a single native source", I assume you mean a publication native to Afghanistan? I could guess multiple reasons for that, but Wikipedia is written by volunteers. If you know something relevant you think should be here that's not, please add it, subject to the standard Wikipedia rules of writing from a neutral point of view citing credible sources. DavidMCEddy (talk) 12:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I have no idea what my specific complaint was here but thanks for your extensive answer. I noticed some citations are broken as well and in need of fixing. 68.42.73.202 (talk) 09:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Okay.... lets all be honest here in saying that there is no way 20 years of war can be covered in one article. I am proposing a split in years to at least make editing more manageable. Elements from these article should then be merged with War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)#History. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:20, 10 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Not a good idea as no other war article does this to my knowledge. Keepcalmandchill (please ping in responses) (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I originally voted no to split but after reviewing the article again I have changed my mind. This is 5000 words over the readable prose size (WP:TOOBIG) for "Almost certainly should be divided or trimmed." Doing it by decade is nonstandard but not the worst way to do it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply