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It's not a standoff as the police were eventually allowed to enter the building, so this is something else. What is it? Howard the Duck (talk) 23:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Maybe Arrest of Apollo Quiboloy? HueMan1 (talk) 01:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I'd be okay with that. Does Wikipedia have arrest articles though? Howard the Duck (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I guess so. HueMan1 (talk) 21:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Wow who knew? Shall we do an WP:RM? Would it be uncontroversial enough? KOJC supporters on social media were insisting he surrendered and was not arrested, but usual practices have the arrest coming after the surrender. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
- I believe Arrest of Apollo Quiboloy to refer to the subject of this article is not controversial, and if no one objects, I'd bypass the WP:RM process and move it myself. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff → Arrest of Apollo Quiboloy – Not a standoff, as the cops were allowed to get in; not a siege, because this was not in a warzone. The cops' mission was to arrest Quiboloy, and that should be the name of the article. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- The article content seems to contradict the idea that it was not a standoff. — BarrelProof (talk) 06:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- KOJC people were not successful in preventing the cops from entering their property; if they were, it can be a standoff. WP:RS described the event as cops arresting Quiboloy anyway. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Apparently, Quiboloy was not the only person who was targeted for arrest or was arrested. It still seems quite strange to move the article to a title that is so at odds with the article content – the article clearly refers to it as a standoff over-and-over. An arrest is not something that lasts for more than two weeks (in fact six months after a senate arrest warrant was issued) and involves the injury of more than a hundred people. How about Manhunt raid of Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound? — BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- It depends what WP:RS are calling it. RS were calling what has happening as the arrest of Quiboloy (other defendants notwithstanding), and your suggestion is not what the RS calls it, at least after the cops were able to enter the property; it was a standoff when they were held back, but it no longer was. I assume the article was created when there was a standoff. Your suggestion is not even what the WP:RS called it: I guess it was a manhunt in an confined area, as opposed to most manhunts' coverage of a much larger area, but none of the WP:RS consistently called it as a "manhunt", probably because of this. As we're referring to the entire event in full, and now that the event is done with, we all know what this is: the arrest of Apollo Quiboloy. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
- Note: WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, WikiProject Law Enforcement, Tambayan Philippines, and WikiProject Christianity/Noticeboard have been notified of this discussion. HueMan1 (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply