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To-do list for Vietnam War: edit·history·watch·refresh· Updated 2024-05-25

  • Remove detail already in separate sub-articles, or move it to those articeles, to reduce the size of this article.
  • Define acronym "GVN" or remove it
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Section sizes

Section size for Vietnam War (69 sections)
Section name Byte
count
Section
total
(Top) 40,949 40,949
Names 3,398 3,398
Background 865 10,732
Japanese occupation of Indochina 3,683 3,683
First Indochina War 3,668 6,184
Battle of Dien Bien Phu 2,516 2,516
Transition period 14,924 14,924
Diệm era, 1954–1963 81 8,800
Rule 2,405 2,405
Insurgency in the South, 1954–1960 3,939 6,314
North Vietnamese involvement 2,375 2,375
Kennedy's escalation, 1961–1963 6,632 15,789
Ousting and assassination of Ngô Đình Diệm 9,157 9,157
Gulf of Tonkin and Johnson's escalation, 1963–1969 3,540 23,189
Gulf of Tonkin incident 4,099 4,099
Bombing of Laos 1,812 1,812
The 1964 offensive 2,779 2,779
American ground war 10,959 10,959
Tet Offensive and its aftermath 12,678 12,678
Vietnamization, 1969–1972 33 23,562
Nuclear threats and diplomacy 2,453 2,453
Hanoi's war strategy 1,806 1,806
U.S. domestic controversies 1,980 1,980
Collapsing U.S. morale 5,689 5,689
ARVN taking the lead and U.S. ground force withdrawal 3,154 3,154
Cambodia 3,779 3,779
Laos 1,289 1,289
Easter Offensive and Paris Peace Accords, 1972 3,379 3,379
U.S. exit and final campaigns, 1973–1975 6,085 15,001
Campaign 275 2,028 2,028
Final North Vietnamese offensive 2,839 2,839
Fall of Saigon 4,049 4,049
Opposition to U.S. involvement 3,951 3,951
Involvement of other countries 92 6,205
Pro-Hanoi 16 5,726
People's Republic of China 1,994 1,994
Soviet Union 3,716 3,716
Pro-Saigon 387 387
United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races 1,607 1,607
War crimes 722 15,277
South Vietnamese, Korean and American 10,890 10,890
North Vietnamese and Viet Cong 3,665 3,665
Women 6,025 6,025
Black servicemen 2,164 2,164
Weapons 1,214 1,214
Extent of U.S. bombings 2,061 2,061
Casualties 8,497 8,497
Aftermath 14 47,592
In Southeast Asia 25 15,550
In Vietnam 8,432 8,432
Laos and Cambodia 3,257 3,257
Unexploded ordnance 2,054 2,054
Refugee crisis 1,782 1,782
In the United States 5,390 13,903
Financial cost 2,226 2,226
Impact on the U.S. military 6,287 6,287
Effects of U.S. chemical defoliation 10,207 10,207
In popular culture 2,902 4,952
Myths 2,050 2,050
Commemoration 2,966 2,966
See also 129 129
Annotations 39 39
References 437 27,386
Citations 31 31
Works cited 4,261 4,261
Main sources 4,454 4,454
Additional sources 16,923 16,923
Historiography 1,280 1,280
External links 4,940 4,940
Total 296,109 296,109
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Kumar Republic is missing a visitation for casualties. {{}} 64.189.18.48 (talk) 06:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 06:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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The UK should be listed as a combatant, as the Heath government sent British troops to Vietnam in 1971-72. 86.131.66.247 (talk) 04:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Source (please read wp:rs)? Slatersteven (talk) 09:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Queens Highlanders spent twelve months in Vietnam in 1971-72. (2A00:23C5:C416:A601:1DCC:635A:5352:D795 (talk) 19:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC))Reply
There is no WP:RS supporting that. Mztourist (talk) 02:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Source (please read wp:rs)? Slatersteven (talk) 10:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Sources required for casualties for khmer and laotian republics remove or add them. 64.189.18.53 (talk) 10:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Khemer is listed as Unknown, so there is no need to remove it Loas is soruced. Slatersteven (talk) 10:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Do we need a FAQ with

Q was there any British involvement in Vietnam

A No, and any such question will be deleted unless backed with a source?

Yes or no? Slatersteven (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The most important British involvement was that the Americans listened pretty carefully when Sir Robert Thompson gave them advice about what to do in Vietnam. Ed Moise (talk) 15:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

As thuis block evasion while not often it is wasting a lot less time than just deleting these silly season questions. Slatersteven (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Did a quick search of archives and in the first 20 hits for British I picked out one that related to British involvement? Also, I don't recall seeing it before as an issue. So, probably not. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Remove unsubstantiated claims in casualties or cite sources.

{{}} 64.189.18.53 (talk) 06:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

what unsubstantiated claims? Mztourist (talk) 07:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Same IP with the Khemer/Kumar requests above. Intothatdarkness 11:51, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

The men killed and wounded during the Mayaguez incident are listed as Vietnam war causality's according to military government records. The deaths of these men are listed on the Vietnam memorial. Remove the phony date you have of April 30,1975 as the end of the Vietnam war as it is incorrect in every way. That is just the day they turned the cameras off in Sagon. 2600:1015:A004:F190:7920:2CE8:4767:E02A (talk) 15:06, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

See talk page archive as to why we have the date we have, its based on what wprs say. Slatersteven (talk) 15:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Repeat of this. (Hohum @) 15:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
We rely on the consensus of reliable sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you think the war ended on April 30, 1975 you rely on pure stupidity.  2600:1015:A004:F190:1FEB:5B45:A6C3:7B78 (talk) 05:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I suggest you contact the RS we used and get them to change it. Slatersteven (talk) 09:44, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I suggest you contact the families whose sons died in the Mayaguez Incident and tell them the wiki decided April 30, 1975 is the end of the Vietnam war.  While the US government says they are Vietnam veterans killed in action during the Vietnam war. so obviously according to wiki their names should be removed from the Vietnam memorial and all the Vietnam awards they received should be returned.  2600:1015:A004:F190:F07C:8D8D:B48A:66C8 (talk) 16:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Mayaguez incident was a fight between US and Cambodian forces, in Cambodia, after the fighting in Vietnam had ended. It had nothing to do with Vietnam. Ed Moise (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
US forces fought in Cambodia all the time during the Vietnam war. Are you now saying that no US military was ever in Cambodia and the fight in Cambodia on May 15 ,1975 was the first time? 2600:1015:A025:FEDC:EB84:BCDD:711F:645A (talk) 03:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
No I am not saying those things.
"All the time" is a slight exaggeration. US forces fought occasionally in Cambodia, not very often, up to 1969. They were fighting Vietnamese forces, and this was definitely part of the Vietnam War.
US forces (usually the US Air Force) fought a lot in Cambodia from 1969 to 1973. For most of this time the US operations were directed mostly against Vietnamese forces. Even in 1973, when US operations were directed mostly against Cambodian forces, they were directed against Vietnamese to a significant extent. This was definitely part of the Vietnam War.
Then there was a period of almost two years, from August 1973 to May 1975, when US forces were not fighting in Cambodia.
Then in May 1975, after the war in Vietnam had ended, US forces fought Cambodian forces in Cambodia. This had nothing to do with Vietnam, and I don't regard it as part of the Vietnam War. Ed Moise (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

K6ka https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3A2600%3A1015%3AA026%3A2AD9%3A16AA%3A2EA4%3AF206%3A6A7E Cinderella157 (talk) 09:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your Lies about the US not being in Cambodia prior to May 15, 1975, during the Vietnam are easily disproved as the Cambodian Campain happened April 29 to July 22 of 1970. It was a direct action of and during the Vietnam war as was the Mayaguez Incident. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:CD08:67A2:37AD:CBF8 (talk) 05:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I do not recall anyone saying that, all that said was this incident was long after the US had left the Vietnam war. Slatersteven (talk) 09:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
That is not what the US government says. The US government says it was a Vietnam war action and people killed during the battle are on the Vietnam war memorial. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:CD08:67A2:37AD:CBF8 (talk) 16:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Try locating and posting RS to support your claim. Intothatdarkness 17:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
read the names on the Vietnam memorial thats all the RS you need. 2600:1015:A000:8DA6:475F:181C:E62B:DDE (talk) 16:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Other sources disagree. Slatersteven (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
That this marked the official end of the war, note it has to say something like" the Vietnam war ended on ...". Slatersteven (talk) 11:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Can you added in the belligerents that the Kingdom of Sweden supported North Vietnam? 42.2.152.193 (talk) 12:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Not without the source you did not provide. Slatersteven (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)Reply