User talk:StefenTower - Wikipedia

Hi Stefen, I think the John Asher page is ready for you to review. It is located at User:Annointed777/John Asher (horse racing). Pictures still need to be added, I don't know how to add them, I think I can get them for us. A good friend of mine, daughter is married to Joe Talamo. He is a trainer himself in California. I know he will help if we need it, but I wanted to speak to you first.

I don't know how to change "Racing Awards" to just Awards and I can't get "Kentucky Broadcasters Association" to link, it keeps showing red, but Wikipedia has a page so I must be doing something wrong.

I rally enjoyed learning about Asher so much. I hope I did this justice. It definitely needs the "Stefen Tower" magic! It made me sad that such a wonderful person did not already have a Wikipedia Page. I am so glad you assigned me this project. I consider this "your page" - I would not have known about him if it were not for you. I am looking forward to your feedback, Once you feel that this page is final, I look forward to my next assignment! Your friend (Annointed777 (talk) 23:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)) {ping|StefenTower}Reply

Annointed777 I did a quick review. It's a good start but not quite ready for release. There's a number of technical issues that wouldn't take long to remedy, but the biggest issue that I see is the hagiographic writing -- that is, we aren't supposed to write a love letter or marketing brochure, but instead a drier description like you would normally see in an encyclopedia. See WP:TONE. After you address the tone, I will (if you like) do a run-through and fix any remaining technical issues that I see. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 19:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Stephen,

I would love you to do a run-through on it. I write songs and screenplays, so it might take me awhile to change my writing style. I did tone it way down. I am hoping that when we get this is a state that is good enough to be published, that you will publish it. I would love it to stand next to your other great articles. John Asher deserves that. I would like to be your assistant on here until I get really qualified, if that's okay with you. I think I can get the "guts" of the article correct with sources, but it seems like I get attached to the subjects, I'm working on. I actually spent the last couple days on making it what I thought was neutral. I read your articles and really like them, especially the one article on Muhammad Ali, it's amazing. Maybe I should purposely work on someone I don't like and then it will be neutral. LOL!

Off the subject, and I don't even know if this is appropriate or against Wikipedia rules, I hope not, but I would love to hire you part time to work on a project that I am working on. It's absolutely amazing, but I am having trouble with the very things that you are excellent with. My email is derosasongs@gmail.com - It's the most exciting project, Grammy Award winning producers and mixers are involved, a big director is already attached, the largest video game company in the U.S. has committed to work on it. Please email me if you have any interest and I will explain it in more detail!

Back to Asher! I don't know anything about photos. I can ask Ron Ellis to call Churchill, he will defiantly help us. I love the picture of Asher in his office. I don't want to do anything incorrect. Photos will defiantly make it come alive. I view this page as your so I will take your direction if that is okay with you.

{{ping|StefenTower} (Annointed777 (talk) 20:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC))Reply

Annointed777 Re: first paragraph, it's quite all right to work on bios of people you admire, as I admire Ali, but we do have to put on our "encyclopedic writing" cap when we do the work. It's mainly about getting to the point, avoiding passion, discarding our biases (as much as we can), and reflecting reliable sources. Of course, that doesn't mean we can't write in a way that highlights special aspects of a subject, although we're supposed to go by what reliable sources report about those aspects. If the overall description of the subject is in WP:BALANCE and we're using an encyclopedic tone, we're good. All that said, I think it would be best if you can take a stab at addressing the tone so you can get practice there. Note that we have no WP:DEADLINE. When the article is ready, I can help you move it to the article space -- and you will still receive the credit for having originally created it. As it should be.

Re: second paragraph, I don't think I will have the availability anytime soon (I'm quite far behind on my own projects! :) ), but I may think about it some more. Thank you for considering me at any rate.

Re: third paragraph, I poked around for some images. There were none on Wikimedia Commons, and several on Flickr, but the ones on Flickr were all encumbered by strict copyright. The bottom line is we need a photo where the photo-taker is basically willing to give it away - that is, they give away some or all of their rights to the image. And it would be easier in a legal sense if any photos were taken of Asher while he was doing something in a public-facing manner (i.e., nothing private). Note that we can certainly publish the article without an image.

Last, there's no need to ping me on my own user talk page. I get notifications automatically. Cheers! Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 00:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Stefen,

I like how you identified the paragraphs. I'll do the same. Since you are my mentor and I hope I'l be your assistant! Also I don't care about the credit, I'd like you to get it. I would't have done this page if it wasn't;t for your you and it would never get published if it wasn't for you. I know after I dome best you will add the magic to it. So I vote that you publish it.

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I really appreciate your patience. You really have a great way of explaining and being kind about it. It's defiantly a gift and one I so appreciate! I will take your advice and take a stab at it!

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My project is going to be gong on for long time. It's actually a new Company. I am creating a virtual singer to be a pop - I like to think that this will be her influence. She is also neuro-divergent, Autism is so misunderstood and they are my favorite people. I have some traits, but I'm mostly ADHD. I like you and you are ever interested the door is always open. If there is anything I can do to help you with your project, please let me know. I mostly have contacts in the music business and some in TV and film but mostly music. If your project has anything to do with music. I am defiantly the girl who can give you contacts! I would love to hear about your project. I saw that you were working on a YouTube Show. I subscribed to your channel. If I can help you in any way,

3. I will call people and drive them crazy until we get the photos. I will keep you posted and let you know when I have a new version of John Asher for you to see and I will also work on the Pics! Thank you for everything! You are the best!!! and thank you for telling me not to ping people on their own page. It totally shows what a newbie I am! LOL!!! (Annointed777 (talk) 04:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC))Reply

Hi Stefen, Hope you are doing well, sorry for the delay, I was buried with work. I think I have toned down the John Asher page. I am hoping it is ready for your magic to be added. I'm sure it will still need a pass from you. I am trying to study your pages to get a better sense of the writing style. When the page is approved I will work on getting the picture in case someone who is deciding to give right to the picture wants to read it. I tried putting in categories at the bottom but somehow I duplicated the page, so I cancelled it. Let me know what you think!(Annointed777 (talk) 16:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC))Reply

Sometimes I get the notion there are some editors here who just want to let the air out of other editors' tires, for kicks. If someone is doing loads of genuine, good-faith work, don't get in their way! Imperfections can be addressed in due course. This site is bleeding too many editors, and the last thing we should do is discourage work. Editors should ask themselves whether they are fairly interpreting policies/guidelines or becoming so wound up and appearing as pesky hall monitors, insisting that every 'i' is crossed and 't' is dotted. Note that this isn't a call just to other editors, but also to myself. We need to check ourselves more here.

That all said, anyone intentionally breaking guidelines/policies or otherwise dropping messy, unorganized, unsourced, etc. content into articles deserves the wet trout treatment. ;) Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Stefen, if it wasn't for you and another another patient person on Wikipedia, I would not have continued here. It is very intimidating when you first get on Wikipedia. I was having panic attacks every time I pressed publish. I hope this post helps others become a mentor like you are. I appreciate you so much! I think I am your number one fan, but I am sure I am only one of many who feel this way! Thank you Stefen for your support. It would be great if there was a promotion to get more editors on. I would love to help with that.(Annointed777 (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC))Reply

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Hi Stefen, It's Annointed777 - I just received a 2nd notice regarding the board elections. I have read about the candidates but I do not know enough to determine who the best ones are to vote for, what are the top priorities. If you have a chance would you mind emailing me at derosasongs@gmail.com with who you think would be the best choices and I will pay extra attention to them? Thank you Stefen. (Annointed777 (talk) 02:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC))Reply

Sorry, I don't pay attention to this aspect of Wikipedia as I'm too busy with other things. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 18:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there, a user named User:Velma Larkin has falsely accusing me of vandalism and User:Velma Larkin must be indefinitely blocked. I hope you understand. Thanks. 2001:569:74E3:4000:D86:8CFC:FC26:86AC (talk) 05:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

That user has been reported to WP:AIV. I expect they will be blocked soon. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! I didn't know to look here. 166.194.200.16 (talk) 05:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

You warned user:Velma Larkin about an improper warning of an IP editor, well, I am getting the same treatment.

Please help me with a dispute with user:Velma Larkin, because they are acting like a corrupt enforcement officer of Wikipedia by falsely accusing me of vandalism. Please investigate their reverts and their patrolling of IP edits.

I stand by my recent edit of USS San Francisco (SSN-711) as a model of IP editing for the good of the planet. Doesn't everyone live a good IP edit around here? You should! 166.194.200.16 (talk) 05:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I restored your edit, and then another editor came along and partly changed it back, then changed their mind. It should be all right now. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 05:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Always fun to encounter a "not an improvement" change, fix it (completing one aspect to be an actual but minor improvement and reverting another aspect), be personally attacked by that non-improving editor in a subsequent edit, then after calling the "not an improvement" change to that editor's attention, they remove the discussion and slough it off as "not serious", like they're entitled to go around making "not an improvement" changes and attacking fellow editors. This editor literally just changed dates in maintenance templates from a few months ago to this month and finds that actually disruptive edit is useful somehow. Egad. Hopefully this isn't the kind of editor Wikipedia is cultivating in 2024. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 22:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Wounded Knee Massacre § Massacre? Mass Shooting? - what to state in the lead section. Shearonink (talk) 20:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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I would like to better explain the error I am trying to correct then we can work on trying to get sources added. Allindsey1978 (talk) 00:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

There is WP:NODEADLINE to make this change to the article. Please find the source(s) before adding. Unfortunately, if you keep adding unsourced stats, that could lead to an admin blocking you. Stefen 𝕋ower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 00:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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