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Delete or Merge into Illinois House of Representatives and appropriate elections articles. Unlike other electoral districts in Illinois or sub-national electoral districts in other countries, I do not believe individual state legislative districts in Illinois meet the standards of WP:GNG.

These are not like sub-national ridings in the United Kingdom or Canada, counties in the United States, in which there are political groups organized around district geography. They are not like wards in Chicago in which there are longstanding cultural associations or institutions independent of electoral politics.

Unlike congressional districts in Illinois, they do not elect Democratic or Republican committee-persons to any partisan body nor is there a substantial body of independent coverage regarding even their demographic characteristics.

The districts themselves are rarely written about. The "Representative district history" sections are a history of apportionment of districts generally as evidenced by the fact that all of the articles have identical excerpts. The more modern coverage that does exist is secondary to gerrymandering allegations (and the subsequent lawsuits) or the description of an election. While a subject of an article does not need to be the main topic to be significant coverage, it does need to be more than trivial. TLDR: These districts are not notable due to a lack of substantial, independent coverage just because similar enough entities might be. Mpen320 (talk) 15:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because the articles are of substantially similar substance as Illinois's 1st House of Representatives district.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. --Mpen320 (talk) 15:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. --Mpen320 (talk) 16:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. --Mpen320 (talk) 16:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Unlike congressional districts in Illinois, they do not elect Democratic or Republican committee-persons to any partisan body - do they not elect members to the Illinois House of Representatives (Democratic or Republican) in partisan elections? AusLondonder (talk) 16:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification. I was referring to the respective State Central Committees of the major parties [1]. Those offices are elected/selected from congressional districts. It is just another way that those districts are covered that state legislative districts are not covered.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Just because something isn't covered or has full articles doesn't disqualify it from an article. Other states have articles for every senate and legislature (or equivalent) district; just because Illinois does not (likely because many of them are small urban districts) doesn't mean we TNT every article that has been created, and it is undeniably partisan. Nate • (chatter) 16:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This is just pointing out other stuff exists on Wikipedia. I also acknowledge legislative districts in other states could very well meet WP:GNG. Your remark about small, urban districts, well these are all small, urban districts with no significant coverage or independent coverage. Also, I have no idea where you are getting that I am being partisan. It's an unfair allegation.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to the districts, not your views. Nate • (chatter) 22:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then I don't understand the criticism. This is the nomination procedure for multiple related pages.--Mpen320 (talk) 14:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Not sure any of the reasons listed qualify this article for deletion. These electoral districts have been around for a long time and are historical. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 23:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. If they are so historically important, then why has no one been able to find any sort of independent, significant coverage of the districts? It exists for congressional districts. I could find a bunch of coverage on the creation/gerrymander of Illinois's 13th congressional district. I can find plenty of independent, significant coverage of Chicago wards such as Chicago's 11th ward (notably Ward by Ward by David K. Fremond. So why not these if they meet the barrier for significant, independent coverage? The fact that most districts have been around since no earlier than the Cutback Amendment in the early 1980s, is not in of its self meet WP:GNG. It is a classic case of existence does not mean notability.