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Redirect per wp:2DABS, unless there are more. --MikutoH ^talk! 00:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Sexuality and gender, Disambiguations, Georgia (country), and Georgia (U.S. state). --MikutoH ^talk! 00:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another option is merge with LGBT history in Georgia and move that to LGBT in Georgia. --MikutoH ^talk! 00:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no primary topic, so the base name needs to host a disambiguation page per WP:NOPRIMARY. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per WP:NOPRIMARY Demt1298 (talk) 01:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: No primary topic. PamD 07:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a disambiguator in the absence of a clear primary topic, with a preference to Merge both LGBT history in Georgia and LGBT rights in Georgia into LGBT in Georgia, making the latter the host DAB instead of a redirect to just one of them. I agree with other !votes that each should be kept as a form of disambiguation as there is no a clear primary topic between the two, however I don't see why we can't redirect this to a more general article title which broadly covers the history and rights articles together. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the avoidance of doubt, I have clarified my position that I concur with retaining as disambiguator without a clear primary topic, but with a preference to see it merged into a wider article title. @MikutoH: The consensus is fairly clear against a redirect as proposed, and you may wish to withdraw in the absence of any contrary expression. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per WP:NOPRIMARYas above. The merge between two pages not under discussion in this AfD may well be a good idea, but (a) I don't see why they should then assume the status of primary topic over an eponymous country, so the merged title should remain LGBT history in Georgia (U.S. state), (b) neither of the pages for merge are the subject of this AfD so it should be done as a merge discussion, (c) that merge would, in any case need to precede a following RM discussion, and page moves are not AfD outcomes. So all of that can be pursued separately. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fairly sure a merge suggestion can form part of a discussion in an AfD, especially as renaming of pages is not actually a necessity to achieve that proposal. I also have no clue what you mean by point "a", perhaps there is a weak explanation on my part. Either way, I was clear that I agreed with the "keep" !votes in keeping the page as a means of disambiguating between two articles without a primary, but as the nom specifically mentioned the LGBT in Georgia (rights) article, I figured i'd offer a view on that too.

Besides, do we really need to have two DABs for the "history" and "rights" when we can just change LGBT in Georgia into a DAB article linking to all four? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A merge is a valid outcome for a page nominated at AfD. It is inappropriate for a page that has not been nominated as watchers of the pages you propose merging will not be notified of the discussion, and will not necessarily have participated. That merge discussion needs to be pursued separately. Since you have modified your !vote, this is, in any case, now moot. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above, a merge would be a nice idea to address separately. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NOPRIMARY, I'm sure this happens to other articles for Georgia and Georgia. Dr vulpes (Talk) 13:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Good way to disambiguate per WP:NOPRIMARY. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 15:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Preference is keep the status quo of two dabs per WP:NOPRIMARY. Merging the two into a single DAB would be acceptable as the line between the two is a bit fuzzy although I think in general we maintain both articles for many localities so having to is fine. Strongly oppose any sort of removing the dabs and replacing with a redirect to one with just a hatnote. That's been discussed many, many as a general concept between the two Georgias and the current consensus is clearly no primary so TWODABS suggests having a disambiguation page (see all the RMs in Talk:Georgia (country) for example). Skynxnex (talk) 19:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]